for a friend: anyone successfully installed an EMU on an MSM?
my buddy has an MSM and can't get spark to work. He paid a guy $1000+ to set it all up, and the guy can't make it happen. Anywhere I can direct him?
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joe perez on miataturbo.net
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If you have a boomslang harness (or wired yourself all the signals) I think you have to disconnect the Crank angle signal AND the Cam angle signal. (and keep them disconnected for ever, you can't use them)
Worked on a NB Facelift '01+. If you use a grinded clip you can open the connector C, lift the small plastic wing and pull away the pins without cutting the wires. They are the pin 33 and 39 on connector C |
Originally Posted by jhoexp
(Post 182777)
If you have a boomslang harness (or wired yourself all the signals) I think you have to disconnect the Crank angle signal AND the Cam angle signal. (and keep them disconnected for ever, you can't use them)
Worked on a NB Facelift '01+. If you use a grinded clip you can open the connector C, lift the small plastic wing and pull away the pins without cutting the wires. They are the pin 33 and 39 on connector C +1 |
Originally Posted by jhoexp
(Post 182777)
If you have a boomslang harness (or wired yourself all the signals) I think you have to disconnect the Crank angle signal AND the Cam angle signal. (and keep them disconnected for ever, you can't use them)
Worked on a NB Facelift '01+. If you use a grinded clip you can open the connector C, lift the small plastic wing and pull away the pins without cutting the wires. They are the pin 33 and 39 on connector C |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 182804)
so you're disconnecting the crank and cam sensors to the factory ecm, and only running them to the EMU?
NBs in general have always seemed problematic, and I don't know why that is. But for starters, follow the advice of jhoexp and musanovic, and disconnect the CKP/CMP wires from the EMU. In order to be of much further help, details on the wiring are going to be needed. IOW- a complete and specific list of exactly which wires have been cut, which ones have been spliced/teed, and where they all go. Also, a complete list of the current jumper settings, a .EM2 file, and a .LG2 file with commentary. I really hope this isn't a boomslang- those damn things use the same color wire for every connection and don't come with any pinout documentation so far as I can tell. BTW- $1000 to install and tune an EMU? Damn, I'm in the wrong line of work. |
yeah, this guy doesn't know all that. He's fucked. I told him to just run stand alone, then throw the stock computer and MAF back in for inspections.
Its over $1000, and they can't get it to work. |
Did he actually pay someone $1000 to not make his EMU work, or is that what they would have charged him if they had gotten it to work?
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If this is really the case tell your friend to give me 1000 dollars and I'll not finish the job too.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 183008)
Did he actually pay someone $1000 to not make his EMU work, or is that what they would have charged him if they had gotten it to work?
I don't know how these piggy backs work...so back to the MS forum. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 182804)
so you're disconnecting the crank and cam sensors to the factory ecm, and only running them to the EMU?
No, follow the connecting diagram on emu manual, but don't connect the crank angle and cam angle signals to the emu. (They should be used to monitor timing, but this function does not seem to work on NBs) Boomslang harness may be expensive, but is made really well...with that the installation is plag & play, except for this 2 wires to cut on NB Facelift. |
www.mazda-speed.com direct him there
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Originally Posted by jhoexp
(Post 183302)
No, follow the connecting diagram on emu manual, but don't connect the crank angle and cam angle signals to the emu. (They should be used to monitor timing, but this function does not seem to work on NBs)
Boomslang harness may be expensive, but is made really well...with that the installation is plag & play, except for this 2 wires to cut on NB Facelift. Also, the people that posted potential solutions, are you running an EMU on an MSM? |
Originally Posted by msydnor
(Post 186660)
I just bought an EMU and boomslang harness, hasn't arrive yet. My question is, does the guys EMU not work at all or just these two functions?
Also, the people that posted potential solutions, are you running an EMU on an MSM? |
Originally Posted by musanovic
(Post 186690)
i am running it on a 01 not msm. works great.
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Originally Posted by msydnor
(Post 186733)
You had to disable the two signal wires discussed above for yours to work properly?
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is this problem only on the 01+ or does that include the 99-00 crowd
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There are preset parameters in the emanage software for the 99 engines, so I would imaging it's not a problem. If you disable the cam and crank angle sensors from the EMU, soes this mean you don't have the ability to adjust timeing?
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Originally Posted by msydnor
(Post 188471)
There are preset parameters in the emanage software for the 99 engines, so I would imaging it's not a problem. If you disable the cam and crank angle sensors from the EMU, soes this mean you don't have the ability to adjust timeing?
Msydnor, you can still advance and retard timing with cam and crank signal disconnected...they should be used just to monitor (and log) timing. |
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