14point7 users opinion on Spartan2?
Looking to get a low cost, gaugeless WBO2 and am looking at the 14point7 Spartan2.. I know a few around here have them, how do you like it? I have an old AEM 30-2301 4.2 based unit for the wife's JRSC car, but need a new unit for the turbo car (which is getting the ME221) since that's where I stole it from. :)
So, thoughts anyone? For $125 with sensor it seems like a perfect fit assuming it performs long term... Wallyman |
The Spartan 2 is great. The calibration feature is really nice since it doesn't have a gauge. The one I have experience with doesn't have too many miles on it, but I've heard good things about longevity.
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Looks like a great product from people that know a thing or two; however lack of digital/CAN output was what turned me away.
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If the price difference was significant I'd probably use it, but at 55 away from the uego x line which has a ton of features, it's just not attractive enough. I've tuned a few cars with these, they work :)
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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If the price difference was significant I'd probably use it, but at 55 away from the uego x line which has a ton of features, it's just not attractive enough. I've tuned a few cars with these, they work :)
You tuned with Spartan2 or with AEM X? I did enjoy this article (sadly lacking 14point7 products): https://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/...tout/index.php |
Tuned many aem, and a few of the spartans, no issues. |
Can the me221 take a digital can input?
I struggled to get a reliable signal from my aem analog output. The gauge would show pig rich 10 ish afr and ms3 will say I'm on target at 11.5 ish. got a digital can module for ms3 and now all is in sync. |
Spartan is good, ive used 10 or 15 without issue. It does everything anyone needs if they have a modern ecu. Latency can be figured out easily with a log and you need to figure out system latency to account for how far down the downpipe the wideband is anyway.
Dann |
In case anyone cares - Latency testing (still without a Spartan though):
AEM Electronics Wideband Challenge and also https://frontstreet.media/2017/05/01...io-controller/ |
Here is Spartan2 review I wrote in 2016. I am still have Spartan2 on two my cars without any problems.
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Whelp, finally finishing up the oil leak fixes and put the drivetrain back in, with the new Spartan2 sicne it arrived while the car was apart. I can't get it to read properly, it seems to be stuck just under 5vdc on the WBO2 wire. Red to switched 12v, black to the head where the ECU is grounded (per factor manuals), white heater ground to the chassis by the passenger shock tower, brown not connected, blue not connected, green connected to O2 input to ME221 (same as the AEM was). Any suggestions?
I bought two, so tomorrow I am going to plug in the other sensor and see if the results are the same....otherwise I'm not sure what to look it, it's pretty simplistic (which was the point). |
Originally Posted by Wallyman
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Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe
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Remove ME221.
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Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe
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Remove ME221.
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perform "bench" test to make sure Spartan is working properly (with external 12VDC 5A power supply) :
+12V to red wire -12V to black and white wires measure voltage between green wire and -12V first 5 second voltage suppose to be 1.333V next 5 seconds - 3.333V later - 4.98V |
Originally Posted by irodd
(Post 1517741)
perform "bench" test to make sure Spartan is working properly (with external 12VDC 5A power supply) :
+12V to red wire -12V to black and white wires measure voltage between green wire and -12V first 5 second voltage suppose to be 1.333V next 5 seconds - 3.333V later - 4.98V Any other thoughts? |
if you see 1.666/3.333V at start up = Spartan is working properly.
Then check 2 things: your ECU knows to which input sensor connected and sensor calibration. |
Do you have en exhaust leak or a broken/grounded wire?
If not perhaps you have a dead sensor. Dann |
Originally Posted by nitrodann
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Do you have en exhaust leak or a broken/grounded wire?
If not perhaps you have a dead sensor. Dann After reconnecting to the ECU, now it's jumping from 1.64v for 4 seconds, then drops to zero, immediately jumps back to 1.64.. repeat. |
looks like you are not alone
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ca...-2/14Al1NzYuxE |
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