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4ddiction 05-28-2016 07:33 PM

CanH and CanL location on braineacks ms3
 
I am trying to connect a ms3labs Can module to a diyautotune ms3 that was built by braineack for a 95 Miata. I was wondering if anyone could point out the location of the CanH and CanL wire on the harness I can't seem to find any diagram that is matching my wires.

aidandj 05-29-2016 12:24 AM

Take apart the ECU and post pictures of the top and bottom of the blue main board.

Check if any wires are going to the SPR3 and SPR4 pins.

Lokiel 05-29-2016 06:23 AM

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MS3 Board:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464517435

MS3 Pinout (easier to read):
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464517435

CANH and CANL pins are on the left, 2nd from bottom - use a multimeter on these pins and the harness to find the correct harness wires.

aidandj 05-29-2016 08:39 AM

That's the ms3pro.

4ddiction 05-30-2016 07:11 PM

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I partially opened up the board fearing of breaking any important connections. So here are some pictures, i dont think it looks the board posted above.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464649916
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464649916
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464649916
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464649916

aidandj 05-30-2016 07:15 PM

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Looks like it's not wired up. Here is the page from the ms3 Manuel.
Attachment 231835

4ddiction 05-30-2016 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1335296)
Looks like it's not wired up. Here is the page from the ms3 Manuel.
https://i.imgur.com/T6c5PCy.jpg

Awesome!! Ill go ahead and solder in those wires. Now since they werent wired in that means those slots on the DB harness should be empty as well and i would have to solder in new wires for them correct?

deezums 05-30-2016 07:23 PM

Those jumpers connect CPU pins to the DB connector, they will be on pin 3 and 4 on the MS3 DB port. You may need to add those wires to your harness on the other side, can probably just solder the twisted pair directly into the DB37 plug though. All the ones I've seen were solder cup.

Check the wiring here. I would also twist the jumper wires you add inside the ms3 too, just for kicks.

http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/MS3XV30_Hardware-1.3.pdf

aidandj 05-30-2016 07:26 PM

As long as something else isn't using spr3 and 4 you should have to add a new wire.

im pretty sure those aren't direct CPU connections. They should have some protection circuits on the ms3 card.

4ddiction 05-30-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1335299)
As long as something else isn't using spr3 and 4 you should have to add a new wire.

im pretty sure those aren't direct CPU connections. They should have some protection circuits on the ms3 card.

Yup they were open. Checkded PNP harness and they were empty as well for pin 3-4.

Twisted the jumper cables

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464656725

Too dark now, will run the CAN module cables to the harness pins and hopefully everything starts up.

4ddiction 05-31-2016 04:28 PM

Installed the new module into the car and now I have another issue. In the the tunerstudios the afr is stuck at 14.7 no matter what throttle. And the guage in the car reads --- but responds and richens up when throttled. Goes back to --- in idle. Car idles fine. I think I need to lift the car and check the aem wideband wires.


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