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Joker 02-06-2018 05:07 PM

CAS/CKP and tooth resolution
 
  • 91 chassis
  • 99 head with CAS in rear
  • 97 block with 4 tooth hub
  • MS3x
  1. Can I run the rear CAS in combination with a CKP for my toothed crank hub?
  2. If true, can I lead the CKP wire from the CAS to the CKP sensor? Then splice 12v and ground?
  3. What is the total resolution ms3x can handle? Is there a recommendation? 32?
Thanks.

Reverant 02-06-2018 05:26 PM

1) No unless you have the magnetic-type CAS, in which case you can cut one of the two inner "teeth" to get sequential, and swap the front trigger for a 36-2 or other (the stock 4-tooth trigger is uneven and won't work this way).
2) Yes but you also need to use the 99+ cam sensor if you want to use the stock 4-tooth trigger wheel.
3) The MS3 can easily handle say a 60-2 crank wheel but you also need a single cam pulse from the CAS in this case - see 1).

Joker 02-07-2018 11:16 AM

Thanks Rev,

This is not what I was hoping to hear, but it is understandable. I do not have the option to run the 99+ cam sensor, because my valve cover will not support it (protege valve cover).

If I am understanding you correctly - If I were to get a 36-2 tooth hub wheel, and cut two ears off my Magnetic CAS. I could run a trigger wheel CKP off my existing CAS wiring ?

Does it matter which pair of ears?

Matt Cramer 02-08-2018 09:55 AM

If using a 36-2 crank trigger and the NA CAS for a cam sensor, you'd need to modify the CAS so it supplies only one pulse per revolution. This could be done by cutting either the inner 2-tooth ring or the outer 4-tooth ring down to one tooth.

shuiend 02-08-2018 02:26 PM

Why nit get 99/00 valve cover? Seems the easier thing to do then try to hodge podge other stuff together.

Joker 02-08-2018 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1466130)
Why nit get 99/00 valve cover? Seems the easier thing to do then try to hodge podge other stuff together.

Would I just run the wiring for both sensors from my existing CAS plug harness?

I thought Cam gears needed to be magnetic as well? Is there a special cam gear type for the 99?

lsdlsd88 02-09-2018 09:42 AM

yes you need the 99 cam gears, or any chinese-adjustable that are compatible with any NA/NB (except VVT).

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...m-gears-87595/

BTW it's not magnetic, it only has some "nubs" to stimulate the sensor. if you get chinese make sure they have the right height (distance from the sensor) ;)

m2cupcar 02-09-2018 10:11 AM

fwiw- I just drilled, tapped and screwed/threadlocked in a stud on an adjustable cam gear for the NB cam sensor. Ran several seasons of racing like that.

Pintobeantoes 02-09-2018 10:58 AM

what loss of resolution or accuracy would there be running just NA CAS?


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