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Rushin 05-29-2010 04:41 PM

Lc-1 Shutting off while driving.
 
Just started to have an issue with my LC-1. Was driving today on a hwy and suddenly my LC-1 went to full rich. I looked at the led and it was blinking. After i pulled over i checked that it does 8 blinks (i am pretty sure thats what it was) and the Error code for 8 blinks is either bad sensor of overheated sensor.

After i restarted the car it went back to normal but after a bit more of driving on a highway it turned off again. The EGTs are around 1400 (measured before turbo at 3rd cylinder) on a highway and i was running at about 14.7-15.3. I dont have a heat sink around the sensor. Could it be overheating?

And another question i have is what is good timing for cruising? I think my timing is too advanced at cruising right now.

THANKS.

nickblackbelt 05-29-2010 04:43 PM

hmm mine started doing this, but that was after i over heated real bad and blew a HG so i guess its time for a new sensor

Rushin 05-29-2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by nickblackbelt (Post 580363)
hmm might started doing this, but that was after i over heated real bad and blew a HG so i guess its time for a new sensor

damn, thats no good. how often does yours do it?

nickblackbelt 05-29-2010 05:45 PM

it like acts funny about 1 time a month and i just shut the car off and turn it on, then its fine. then about 1 time a year it takes a shit and i need a new sensor. it does not seem like these sensors last long

Braineack 05-29-2010 05:57 PM

mine's lasted four years. I just replaced my sensor last week...but i have a feeling the old sensor was still good and the controller was doing something stupid.

na8psi 05-29-2010 06:23 PM

I've had the same problem, my lc-1 gauge just jumps around from normal reading to like high 7's low 8s and just flips back and forth between the numbers, the LED stays solid the whole time though? Then it was at a point where it just blinked full rich but the LED stayed solid. I called innovate and they basically just said they didnt know what to tell me? I thought maybe it was overheating, but I have the sensor mounted in a heatsink bung that comes with it from innovate? never had any problems with the sensor for about 3 months, until I went to 10psi. The controller itself is heatwrapped and has a heatshield guarding it.

thirdgen 05-29-2010 09:36 PM

My lc1 is doin this same horseshit. It'll work fine if I cold start the car, but once I restart when fully warmed it, sometimes it'll just stay totally rich. It's hit or miss. I could drive the car for a week straight and it won't do it, then one day it'll do it all day long,

sixace 05-29-2010 10:04 PM

Mine's doing it too. Started doing it during a dyno run a few months ago and periodically jumps to full rich 21.9 the acts normal between random jumps. No led flashes. Re-calibration did not change anything. I'll get a new sensor if it gets worse. Seems to be ok except for the random jumps...

SA

na8psi 05-29-2010 10:56 PM

I talked to the guys at Innovate, he told me that if you continue to have problems and want to replace the sensor, he told me to go to the auto parts store (advance, vatozone etc..) and get an o2 sensor from a newer model VW. Just to ask for a late model VW with 5 wire o2 sensor. Apparently its the same 5 wire bosch sensor and uses the same exact connector as the LC-1 controller, he said its exactly what they use and is plug n play, just needs a normal "new sensor" calibration. He said they average around $50 for one vs $70-80 from innovate

Rushin 05-30-2010 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by na8psi (Post 580447)
I talked to the guys at Innovate, he told me that if you continue to have problems and want to replace the sensor, he told me to go to the auto parts store (advance, vatozone etc..) and get an o2 sensor from a newer model VW. Just to ask for a late model VW with 5 wire o2 sensor. Apparently its the same 5 wire bosch sensor and uses the same exact connector as the LC-1 controller, he said its exactly what they use and is plug n play, just needs a normal "new sensor" calibration. He said they average around $50 for one vs $70-80 from innovate

Very interesting!

Rushin 05-30-2010 12:30 AM

online they are about 150 new for a vw one.

Rushin 05-30-2010 12:31 AM

89 here http://www.naautoparts.com/m8_view_i...20-%2017%20090


looks just like innovate.

y8s 05-30-2010 10:24 AM

you can find them for closer to 60. keep looking.

Braineack 05-30-2010 10:40 AM

they are $51.99 at advance auto parts. and $59.99 on amazon.

nickblackbelt 05-30-2010 03:21 PM

just look for bosch 17014

na8psi 05-31-2010 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by nickblackbelt (Post 580620)
just look for bosch 17014

Definite win on the part number.

Rushin 06-02-2010 11:31 PM

Ordered it from Amazon. 50 bucks.

LardoRetardo 11-19-2010 05:01 AM

Hey Rushin. I've been having the same problem with my lc-1. I was wondering if the new sensor fixed the problem?

ZX-Tex 12-05-2010 08:22 PM

In my experience when it starts throwing overheat codes more often like that then replacing the sensor will fix it.

Braineack 12-06-2010 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 665315)
In my experience when it starts throwing overheat codes more often like that then replacing the sensor will fix it.


this.


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