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Zapp 11-04-2011 10:39 PM

1.8-t ran yesterday and today won't start
 
I started my car for the first time yesterday since a recent rebuild. I replaced the pistons and rings, honed the cylinders, and decked the head. Yesterday it was running, though not idling, and revving crappy below 2500rpm, above that and when cruising it was fine. So I assumed it was just that the rings needed to seat. Today I went to start it and it would crank and crank and it I gave it any gas it would backfire extremely loudly. any ideas on where to start with this?

mods are 95 block, weisco pistons, eagle rods, arp hardware, 99 head, ms pnp, gt2871 turbo, 550cc injectors.

AredMiata 11-04-2011 10:55 PM

Check timing. Take off valve cover and take pictures of your cam gears when they are in line.

Zapp 11-04-2011 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by AredMiata (Post 792249)
Check timing. Take off valve cover and take pictures of your cam gears when they are in line.

ok I will do that tomorrow evening when I get off work.

Zapp 11-07-2011 09:34 AM

After running several tests I have concluded that the timing is good, compression is 170 across the board, both coils are good, the cas is good, and all 4 injectors are working. Is it possible that this is a problem with the megasquirt or the tune?

Braineack 11-07-2011 10:00 AM

it's getting too much fuel....why? what did you change?

Zapp 11-07-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 792918)
it's getting too much fuel....why? what did you change?

I don't think I changed anything that would cause it to get too much fuel.

Braineack 11-07-2011 11:52 AM

and you're certain of your cam timing?

Zapp 11-07-2011 12:18 PM

10 Attachment(s)
Here are some pictures...

Intake cam lobes with cyl one at tdc
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320686286

Exhaust cam lobes with cyl one at tdc
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320686286

intake cam gear
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320686286

exhaust cam gear
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320686286

crank pully
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320686286

There are 19 teeth on the timing belt between the notch on the intake cam and the notch on the exhaust cam.

As you might notice the crank pully isnt reading that it is at tdc, which confused me because I used the screwdriver in the spark plug hole method to find tdc, so it's perfectly at tdc if I'm not mistaken.

Zapp 11-08-2011 08:43 AM

Does anyone have any ideas on what I can try or test to get this thing going again?

Zapp 11-08-2011 03:35 PM

Also I just remembered that I replaced the plugs with ones that were 2 stages colder. From a bkr5e to a bkr7e. I wasn't sure of this could be a problem. But im grasping for ideas

Freaky Roadster 11-09-2011 06:32 PM

Could your valve timing be out?

If you've skimmed the head then you might need to use verniers to correct the timing.

Zapp 11-10-2011 08:33 AM

Thanks everyone one for the ideas. The cam timing was a little off, but it still was able to run with it like that. The problem was that my tune went bad on ms, I reflashed the firmware and reburned the tune and it fired right up. Then I just had to change the timing a little bit and now it runs like a champ!


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