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kfran 09-07-2011 12:16 PM

2.0L or Turbo 1.8L
 
I was wondering what your opinions were about a stroked 1.8 to a 2.0, or a turbo 1.8L? Which one would you choose?

thirdgen 09-07-2011 12:19 PM

turbo'd 1.8
it's cheaper, and easier.

18psi 09-07-2011 12:23 PM

Is this a troll thread?
Seriously.

Bond 09-07-2011 12:25 PM

1.6

kfran 09-07-2011 12:29 PM

No, this is not a troll thread. I just don't know which route to go with my motor.

pdexta 09-07-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 768569)
Is this a troll thread?
Seriously.

+1.

No one can seriously be dumb enough to go to miataturbo.net and ask if we prefer turbos or not. :ugh2:

kfran 09-07-2011 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 768576)
+1.

No one can seriously be dumb enough to go to miataturbo.net and ask if we prefer turbos or not. :ugh2:

https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/engine-swap-turbo-mk1-1-6i-60080/
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/na-fi-58441/
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/fi-1-6-na-1-8-a-58186/

Savington 09-07-2011 01:30 PM

Stroker motor is 8-10k. You'll make like 150whp tops without a lot of headwork, supporting mods, etc.

Or you could turbo the car, spend half of that on a really solid turbo setup, and end up with 225whp.

Up to you.

Reverant 09-07-2011 01:31 PM

But what about teh throttle responsez and such?

hustler 09-07-2011 01:33 PM

Where is the supercharger option?

supercharger > 1600* turbocharger intake air temps

hustler 09-07-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 768593)
But what about teh throttle responsez and such?

email SJMarcy at sjmarcygetshisassbeatbyhiswifeforare...m uddump.aids

kfran 09-07-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 768594)
Where is the supercharger option?

supercharger > 1600* turbocharger intake air temps

Would that be capable with a 7000$ budget?

hustler 09-07-2011 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by kfran (Post 768604)
Would that be capable with a 7000$ budget?

Well, for $7k you could do a proper turbo encabulator with high-speed blue tooth Kanouter valves, which is pretty new on Miatas, but Supra guys got into this years ago. PM Savington if you're interested.

kfran 09-07-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 768607)
Well, for $7k you could do a proper turbo encabulator with high-speed blue tooth Kanouter valves, which is pretty new on Miatas, but Supra guys got into this years ago. PM Savington if you're interested.

Good one bro, how about giving me some real advice/help instead of wasting my time.

Faeflora 09-07-2011 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 768607)
Well, for $7k you could do a proper turbo encabulator with high-speed blue tooth Kanouter valves, which is pretty new on Miatas, but Supra guys got into this years ago. PM Savington if you're interested.

Last I checked Savington was the only source for the kanouter vlaves. Very ncessary for proper tip in response when you're hitting the g spot


Originally Posted by kfran (Post 768604)
Would that be capable with a 7000$ budget?

I would go for a nice $30,000 naturally aspirated build. The 1.5 makes the most horsetorqes



Originally Posted by Savington (Post 768592)
Stroker motor is 8-10k. You'll make like 150whp tops without a lot of headwork, supporting mods, etc.

Up to you.

Sounds good to me. I'm sure it would be nice and snappy.

hustler 09-07-2011 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by kfran (Post 768611)
Good one bro, how about giving me some real advice/help instead of wasting my time.

I bet your mother was a teen-mom, right?


It depends on what you want to do with the car. Are you going to the track or are you a hard-parking troglodyte?

kfran 09-07-2011 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 768614)
I bet your mother was a teen-mom, right?


It depends on what you want to do with the car. Are you going to the track or are you a hard-parking troglodyte?

No, what is the point of being an asshole to someone on a forum?

hustler 09-07-2011 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by kfran (Post 768621)
No, what is the point of being an asshole to someone on a forum?

lol

Savington 09-07-2011 02:40 PM

On a 7k budget, you can put together a pretty damn nice turbo setup. How much power are you looking for, what do you want to do with the car, etc?

What year is your car, where do you live, etc?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-07-2011 02:43 PM

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kfran 09-07-2011 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 768628)
On a 7k budget, you can put together a pretty damn nice turbo setup. How much power are you looking for, what do you want to do with the car, etc?

What year is your car, where do you live, etc?

Maybe around 250rwhp i just want something that i enjoy driving and building.

18psi 09-07-2011 02:44 PM

I'm 99.99% convinced this is a troll thread.

pdexta 09-07-2011 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by 13bmiataUmad (Post 768657)
Miata motors aren't very strong, and can't get you much power, I'd look into the 13b swap :]

x100000000

Rotary is definitely the way you want to go if you want a good, strong, reliable motor. Now you throw a stroker in that beast and that's where you see some real power.

18psi 09-07-2011 03:19 PM

Definitely. Especially a cammed rotary with forged rods and NOS

hustler 09-07-2011 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by kfran (Post 768633)
Maybe around 250rwhp i just want something that i enjoy driving and building.

250whp is fast as shit. At 240whp, I'm just as fast as a C6Z on the highway or the frontstretch of TWS up to 150mph. A 200whp Miata is a fun, zippy car, at 250whp it's a pretty dangerous car where you can easily kill yourself.

I mean this sincerely, I run on the wastegate for 240whp, I have no real desire to crank the boost up to 16psi which makes about 300...it's just too much.

Braineack 09-07-2011 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 768635)
I'm 99.99% convinced this is a troll thread.


correct.


The anti-troll system has become self aware. Judging by the ip address, we have determined kfran and 13bmiataUmad are trolling from the same computer.

hustler 09-07-2011 03:58 PM

Let those ******s eat cake.


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