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Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1498949)
Greg runs the trix coilovers because they were given to him for advertising. Not because they are awesome.
same with his dual plate clutch, which btw destroyed TWO 6 speed transmissions in a matter of weeks. So dont take his parts selection as gospel |
Originally Posted by ManiacLachy
(Post 1498948)
It's easy to get beat down here if you don't do your due diligence, I'm surprised people have been as nice as they have to you actually. There's been a lot of spoon feeding lately now that I think about it.
I watch Greg's videos too, they're entertaining and I think they contain some useful information. But he's been at it a long time, he researches, he takes chances here or there and is prepared to discover and correct mistakes (IAT on the intake manifold FFS!). He has reasons behind doing what he does and using the parts and it's not always the best way, sometimes it's budget based, sometimes it's sponsor based. He has knowledge and experience to backup his decisions though, so don't just follow what he does without giving it some thought and your own research. I have an MSM, I'm taking my own advice, it's actually the collective advice of other's experience across nearly 30 years of the Miata's existence. I'm currently running the stock motor and turbo on a Megasquirt with a flex fuel setup for 250whp on E85 (with a bunch of other supporting and unrelated mods). I'm hoping to stay here for another year, then upgrade the turbo setup (TSE is my forerunner). Then do the motor after that. In the meantime, I read everything. I come up with questions that may or may not be relevant to me in the future and I research it. My plans have evolved many many times, yours will too, so my advice to you is: don't rush! |
I know he uses a lot of research for his methods and that is why I created this thread actually interacting with people get a better understanding to know what is possible and what is me wanting the impossible. I believe this how a thread should be instead of the usual threads of people bashing one another. I take their knowledge into consideration rather than be biligerent |
:drama: so much garbage info in this thread. |
Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1498949)
same with his dual plate clutch, which btw destroyed TWO 6 speed transmissions in a matter of weeks. Doesn't mean I'm not preparing for the worst, but it seems he has some bad luck with transmissions. |
Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1498962)
This is interesting because I'm still on my first 6 speed trans and my car is essentially the same build as Greg's but I'm using 8.6:1 pistons and built mine 4 years ago.
Doesn't mean I'm not preparing for the worst, but it seems he has some bad luck with transmissions. |
Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
(Post 1498956)
I know he uses a lot of research for his methods and that is why I created this thread actually interacting with people get a better understanding to know what is possible and what is me wanting the impossible. I believe this how a thread should be instead of the usual threads of people bashing one another. I take their knowledge into consideration rather than be biligerent Greg does research. You should do that, too. Making this thread isn't research. |
If Abe/ARTech is indeed 'retired' and you still want a pretty one-off manifold, Matt @ hellafab will build you what you want, twin scroll EFR included. I'm sure one of his well made fabricated manifolds will last forever in your application.
But if ultimate track use reliability is of greater concern than internet props from your buddies, trackspeed's cast manifold is for you. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1498982)
What SHOULD happen is a thread should be created with the subject of this thread, AFTER spending many hours reading the various stickies and great information on this forum already. All this is doing is diluting it.
Greg does research. You should do that, too. Making this thread isn't research. |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 1498986)
If Abe/ARTech is indeed 'retired' and you still want a pretty one-off manifold, Matt @ hellafab will build you what you want, twin scroll EFR included. I'm sure one of his well made fabricated manifolds will last forever in your application.
But if ultimate track use reliability is of greater concern than internet props from your buddies, trackspeed's cast manifold is for you. |
trackspeed has a downpipe and turbo to go with their manifold. they even sell oil and water lines. I think it all goes for roughly 3000 on their website.
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
(Post 1498967)
well what clutch are you using? |
Originally Posted by matrussell122
(Post 1498997)
trackspeed has a downpipe and turbo to go with their manifold. they even sell oil and water lines. I think it all goes for roughly 3000 on their website.
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
(Post 1498988)
well I figured a shortcut route was to just get peoples own info and input with their experiences with a engine of this sort of capability |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1499105)
Shortcuts on your way to doing what you're doing isn't a great idea.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1499001)
Check out my build thread for answers. I've run various clutches.
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FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.
Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason. Read the forum. |
Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 1499127)
FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.
Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason. Read the forum. |
Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 1499127)
FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.
Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason. Read the forum. |
Without even posting this you could have found out yourself, by actually researching. That everyone would recommend the TSE EFR kit. Or you would find facts about other yay or nay turbo kits. Along with all info on what you need to upgrade and what parts to focus on or which to ignore. There is literally everything you need to know via search box or google, if you wouldn't be a lazy ass and demand to be spoonfed by creating a thread no different than tons of others. If I can find everything I needed to know since 2011 without asking a single question, it's sad you are doing so right off the bat.
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Originally Posted by brainzata
(Post 1499138)
Without even posting this you could have found out yourself, by actually researching. That everyone would recommend the TSE EFR kit. Or you would find facts about other yay or nay turbo kits. Along with all info on what you need to upgrade and what parts to focus on or which to ignore. There is literally everything you need to know via search box or google, if you wouldn't be a lazy ass and demand to be spoonfed by creating a thread no different than tons of others. If I can find everything I needed to know since 2011 without asking a single question, it's sad you are doing so right off the bat.
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Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 1499127)
FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.
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Originally Posted by Midtenn
(Post 1499176)
To be honest, you probably don't want most of his viewers coming here asking the same questions over and over again. Greg's build is entertaining, semi-informative, and he does a good job of telling his viewers to research before they copy. Sadly many don't listen.
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What have you learned so far?
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1499227)
What have you learned so far?
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
(Post 1499151)
yeah it was a sad and lazy ass move but hey I got very useful information
I build my 320 whp car purely based on research and information found on this forum. Yes, it's a tedious task, but in the end you will wind up understanding WHY you did what you did, where the weak spots are and what to avoid. That doesn't mean you aren't up for mistakes (buying a competition clutch stage 4 instead of FM happy happy meal *cough*). But OTOH it also doesn't mean that one must act dumber than one already is, as we say in Austria. |
Originally Posted by Eunos91
(Post 1499337)
Millennials ...
I build my 320 whp car purely based on research and information found on this forum. Yes, it's a tedious task, but in the end you will wind up understanding WHY you did what you did, where the weak spots are and what to avoid. That doesn't mean you aren't up for mistakes (buying a competition clutch stage 4 instead of FM happy happy meal *cough*). But OTOH it also doesn't mean that one must act dumber than one already is, as we say in Austria. |
It takes a lot of time to dig into people's threads and process what failures they encountered. But investing a bit of time reading about setups and the difficult roads taken to achieve reliability/consistency /closure helps jump start your own build on the right path. You get to skip forward to the juicy stuff, but know why it came to be.
We're all standing on the shoulder of giants. We've evolved from where we've been based on the trials and tribulations of others. That's why we hardly push certain products or vendors who haven't kept up with the times. A quick hint, follow vendors who are active on the boards, who constantly develop for the miata platform and who race these cars competitively. Start a build thread, it would be cool to have pictures. |
There's also the Kraken kit if you're looking for a cast manifold. He sells the accompanying downpipe and full exhaust as well.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1499410)
A quick hint, follow vendors who are active on the boards, who constantly develop for the miata platform and who race these cars competitively.
Start a build thread, it would be cool to have pictures. |
Originally Posted by ridethecliche
(Post 1499428)
There's also the Kraken kit if you're looking for a cast manifold. He sells the accompanying downpipe and full exhaust as well.
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Good choice. Add a big oil cooler and ducting, and you should make reliable power. Given that you sorted out the fueling and built the engine (rods, pistons, bearing, BE oil pump)
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Originally Posted by Eunos91
(Post 1499480)
Good choice. Add a big oil cooler and ducting, and you should make reliable power. Given that you sorted out the fueling and built the engine (rods, pistons, bearing, BE oil pump)
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
(Post 1499467)
already settled on the TSE Turbo kit, efr 6258, iron cast manifold |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1499610)
Our manifold is stainless cast. 347, in fact. Not iron. We are the only MFG offering a cast stainless manifold for the Miata AFAIK. Important distinction :)
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There's a kit in the classifieds if you're interested in it.
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What did I just read...smells like your chasing a dream. JK! Good Luck with build....but here is your msm with trackspeed efr, skunk2 manifold, and artech exhaust. YOUR DREAM IS HERE...
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One of the things that I would submit for you, truly is how hard it is to learn everything you need to know about tuning using an aftermarket ECU. It is certainly easier than ever these days with more intuitive features etc but the fundamental problem is that you have full control of your motor and any change you make affects whether it starts, idles, misfires, or sweeps through the revs at your target AFRs. It's hard. The 6 step process outlined in this forum isnt a short one.
I bring this up because I certainly did my best to seek advice and chase my dream and detonated a brand new built BP4W. Not a cheap thing to do and certainly not worth repeating without respect for the process. My advice, before you buy your first piece of turbo gear, clutch, or exhaust part. Buy an MS3 basic or MS3Pro pnp. Ensure you have the firmware you want, install a wideband o2 sensor with solid grounding and drive it for a month or two. |
Originally Posted by soospecmx5
(Post 1501514)
What did I just read...smells like your chasing a dream. JK! Good Luck with build....but here is your msm with trackspeed efr, skunk2 manifold, and artech exhaust. YOU DREAM IS HERE...
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Every new person here asking for build advice should be required to post a picture of a ton of hundred dollar bills or a big boy credit card. This whole thread stinks of an 18 year old kid looking at a playboy...everyone put your spoons up
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I don't understand the big deal about going to 84mm pistons. It's the most common size fora reason. That saves enough block for you to rebore two more times before you needa new block. Unless you're stupid at tuning, that should last you like 20 years. And new short blocks are practically free at the pick and pull.
Also, upgrade in stages. Learn megasquirt before you tear the engine apart. You want to havea perfectly running car before you rebuild so that when you put it back together you don't have to worry if your base map is weird or you put the timing belt on wrong. |
Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
(Post 1506964)
I don't understand the big deal about going to 84mm pistons. It's the most common size fora reason. That saves enough block for you to rebore two more times before you needa new block. Unless you're stupid at tuning, that should last you like 20 years. And new short blocks are practically free at the pick and pull.
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It's almost impossible to find a BP where I live, I literally had to buy an na8 to get one.
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Wow, I had no idea they had gotten so pricey. That's insane. I used the BP because it was cheap, not because it was good.
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