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04MiataNoobster 08-28-2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1498949)
Greg runs the trix coilovers because they were given to him for advertising. Not because they are awesome.

same with his dual plate clutch, which btw destroyed TWO 6 speed transmissions in a matter of weeks.

So dont take his parts selection as gospel

yeah but thankfully I didn’t buy the clutch which I looked at and found people had that happen also I was gonna go with SuperMiata or ACT clutch since people use them a lot on here

04MiataNoobster 08-28-2018 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by ManiacLachy (Post 1498948)
It's easy to get beat down here if you don't do your due diligence, I'm surprised people have been as nice as they have to you actually. There's been a lot of spoon feeding lately now that I think about it.

I watch Greg's videos too, they're entertaining and I think they contain some useful information. But he's been at it a long time, he researches, he takes chances here or there and is prepared to discover and correct mistakes (IAT on the intake manifold FFS!). He has reasons behind doing what he does and using the parts and it's not always the best way, sometimes it's budget based, sometimes it's sponsor based. He has knowledge and experience to backup his decisions though, so don't just follow what he does without giving it some thought and your own research.

I have an MSM, I'm taking my own advice, it's actually the collective advice of other's experience across nearly 30 years of the Miata's existence. I'm currently running the stock motor and turbo on a Megasquirt with a flex fuel setup for 250whp on E85 (with a bunch of other supporting and unrelated mods). I'm hoping to stay here for another year, then upgrade the turbo setup (TSE is my forerunner). Then do the motor after that. In the meantime, I read everything. I come up with questions that may or may not be relevant to me in the future and I research it. My plans have evolved many many times, yours will too, so my advice to you is: don't rush!

i know it’s easy to get crapped on here and that why when I put that this is my first build it is an have reiterate that I am a noob to this and wanted people honest opinion (also not trying to pick a fight works to)

04MiataNoobster 08-28-2018 09:50 PM

I know he uses a lot of research for his methods and that is why I created this thread actually interacting with people get a better understanding to know what is possible and what is me wanting the impossible. I believe this how a thread should be instead of the usual threads of people bashing one another. I take their knowledge into consideration rather than be biligerent

Twibs415 08-28-2018 10:01 PM

:drama: so much garbage info in this thread.

psyber_0ptix 08-28-2018 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1498949)

same with his dual plate clutch, which btw destroyed TWO 6 speed transmissions in a matter of weeks.

This is interesting because I'm still on my first 6 speed trans and my car is essentially the same build as Greg's but I'm using 8.6:1 pistons and built mine 4 years ago.

Doesn't mean I'm not preparing for the worst, but it seems he has some bad luck with transmissions.

04MiataNoobster 08-28-2018 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1498962)
This is interesting because I'm still on my first 6 speed trans and my car is essentially the same build as Greg's but I'm using 8.6:1 pistons and built mine 4 years ago.

Doesn't mean I'm not preparing for the worst, but it seems he has some bad luck with transmissions.

well what clutch are you using?

concealer404 08-29-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster (Post 1498956)
I know he uses a lot of research for his methods and that is why I created this thread actually interacting with people get a better understanding to know what is possible and what is me wanting the impossible. I believe this how a thread should be instead of the usual threads of people bashing one another. I take their knowledge into consideration rather than be biligerent

What SHOULD happen is a thread should be created with the subject of this thread, AFTER spending many hours reading the various stickies and great information on this forum already. All this is doing is diluting it.

Greg does research. You should do that, too. Making this thread isn't research.

TurboTim 08-29-2018 09:33 AM

If Abe/ARTech is indeed 'retired' and you still want a pretty one-off manifold, Matt @ hellafab will build you what you want, twin scroll EFR included. I'm sure one of his well made fabricated manifolds will last forever in your application.

But if ultimate track use reliability is of greater concern than internet props from your buddies, trackspeed's cast manifold is for you.

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1498982)
What SHOULD happen is a thread should be created with the subject of this thread, AFTER spending many hours reading the various stickies and great information on this forum already. All this is doing is diluting it.

Greg does research. You should do that, too. Making this thread isn't research.

well I figured a shortcut route was to just get peoples own info and input with their experiences with a engine of this sort of capability

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1498986)
If Abe/ARTech is indeed 'retired' and you still want a pretty one-off manifold, Matt @ hellafab will build you what you want, twin scroll EFR included. I'm sure one of his well made fabricated manifolds will last forever in your application.

But if ultimate track use reliability is of greater concern than internet props from your buddies, trackspeed's cast manifold is for you.

So I have heard that track speeds cast manifold is very well worth the buy and if indeed than why argue. As for the down pipe to exhaust I suppose a good exhaust shop will suffice

matrussell122 08-29-2018 10:05 AM

trackspeed has a downpipe and turbo to go with their manifold. they even sell oil and water lines. I think it all goes for roughly 3000 on their website.

psyber_0ptix 08-29-2018 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster (Post 1498967)

well what clutch are you using?

Check out my build thread for answers. I've run various clutches.

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1498997)
trackspeed has a downpipe and turbo to go with their manifold. they even sell oil and water lines. I think it all goes for roughly 3000 on their website.

i can make the lines and have to tools to do them but that manifold is more than likely going on the list

concealer404 08-29-2018 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster (Post 1498988)

well I figured a shortcut route was to just get peoples own info and input with their experiences with a engine of this sort of capability

Shortcuts on your way to doing what you're doing isn't a great idea.

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1499105)
Shortcuts on your way to doing what you're doing isn't a great idea.

that may be true but I’m willing to have an input on peoples experience of doing such a build

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1499001)
Check out my build thread for answers. I've run various clutches.

super jealous of your build and the NA was my my original choice but couldn’t find any for sale where I’m around sadly :/

viperormiata 08-29-2018 10:03 PM

FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.

Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason.

Read the forum.

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 1499127)
FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.

Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason.

Read the forum.

Well I’m getting the TSE manifold and if everyone praises it then I have no intention to argue

04MiataNoobster 08-29-2018 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 1499127)
FYI when Greg fucks up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.

Also, you're completely insane for not running the OTS TSE kit. Literally making things harder for yourself for no reason.

Read the forum.

Well I’m getting the TSE manifold and if everyone praises it then I have no intention to argue. Also I’m not trying to bash on anyone so whatever beef you have between Greg is your ordeal

brainzata 08-29-2018 11:53 PM

Without even posting this you could have found out yourself, by actually researching. That everyone would recommend the TSE EFR kit. Or you would find facts about other yay or nay turbo kits. Along with all info on what you need to upgrade and what parts to focus on or which to ignore. There is literally everything you need to know via search box or google, if you wouldn't be a lazy ass and demand to be spoonfed by creating a thread no different than tons of others. If I can find everything I needed to know since 2011 without asking a single question, it's sad you are doing so right off the bat.


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