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350hp goal
so i have a 90 with a bad crank andit needs bearings, rods, and pistons....i fucked it up pretty good. block is in good condition but besides what i already have to replace im really not sure where to start on mods with this car would like to get some help.
before anyone wants to start calling me dumb and shit i would like to say in my defence that ummm well i can turn a wrench just as good as everyone on here. this is my first import and i want to be able to do pretty much everything on the street with the car i have my goal piont just really not sure how to get there...help please? |
Are you 14?
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you should get headers and exhaust, some cams, light flywheel, should get you to 300. next poster please.
-Kris edit: forgot the power card. like 5 of those. they are good for at least 25 each. |
Do you have ten thousand dollars?
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10K? Thats a lowball savington... a 350hp turbocharged miata is more costly than that. Shit im lucky enough to have had a 210hp automatic turbo miata, and that was a dynojet day with the local old fogies. I'd be lucky if I can build to that or even past that again starting from scratch again next year with my budget and plans
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OP,
You are dumb and shit. |
We need to setup a Loveline-esque thread (Call it Miata-line) where we'll have a team of MT vets answer random callers/posters. We could have guest appearances by different members & stuff.
It would be a great focal point for threads just like this. |
OP Don't listen to the h8ers
git that ebay mani and boost that shit, you don't need a standalone. They are just jealous of your mad wrenching skills. |
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Originally Posted by dgreg91
(Post 953463)
so i have a 90 with a bad crank andit needs bearings, rods, and pistons....i fucked it up pretty good. block is in good condition but besides what i already have to replace im really not sure where to start on mods with this car would like to get some help.
before anyone wants to start calling me dumb and shit i would like to say in my defence that ummm well i can turn a wrench just as good as everyone on here. this is my first import and i want to be able to do pretty much everything on the street with the car i have my goal piont just really not sure how to get there...help please? |
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 953489)
Do you have ten thousand dollars?
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Originally Posted by dgreg91
(Post 953463)
before anyone wants to start calling me dumb and shit i would like to say in my defence that ummm well i can turn a wrench just as good as everyone on here.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 954049)
But I'm sure most of us can spell: defense.
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I don't know why you guys are acting like it's difficult to make 350hp. Drop this in and you're done, and barely over 6 grand:
NEW GM CRATE ENGINE LS3 430HP Gen 3/4 (LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6/LS7/L92/LSX) | eBay |
Originally Posted by pdexta
(Post 954065)
I don't know why you guys are acting like it's difficult to make 350hp. Drop this in and you're done, and barely over 6 grand:
NEW GM CRATE ENGINE LS3 430HP Gen 3/4 (LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6/LS7/L92/LSX) | eBay Nuh uh bro, it costs starting at $35k. Flyin' Miata said so. |
Wait, you just can't climb in the ring with Ali 'cause you think you box!
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 954068)
Nuh uh bro, it costs starting at $35k. Flyin' Miata said so.
I sell bell housing adapater to bolt the miata 5-sp up to that create motor. PM me. |
OP, get junkyard motor, build diy turbo kit, buy ems, boost stock motor to 250whp or so, enjoy a fast car. This should only cost you between 2 and 4 grand. Now if you want 350whp, you better have some deep pockets. Lots of things fail over 250whp, read up.
A turbo miata, so easy a caveman could do it.. right guys? |
OP should really not buy expensive shit, e-bay your way to 350hp, I see nice kits with bawler turbos on there these days to go there on stock injectors with a nice fpr, and very good quality east block engineering into that ss manifold, dont worry about ems..nice fpr should do the trick!:fael:
if BIG turbo no fit, PM good and learned member on here to borrow SAWWZZZAAAALLLL!:brain: |
Turbo no hit block
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No if you want 350hp it is gonna cost you 17k just for the engine just like in this thread:
This is what a 13K engine build gets you.... That is the only way. /sarcasm I died when I read the cost of his build. |
Direct Exhaust Injection.
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obvious troll is obvious. Ban and move on please. This one is no fun.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 954078)
I sell bell housing adapater to bolt the miata 5-sp up to that create motor. PM me.
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so i can take his money and never give him such a stupid product...
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 954100)
Direct Exhaust Injection.
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 954103)
obvious troll is obvious. Ban and move on please. This one is no fun.
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350hp
That is a lot of power for a light car.. I am not the person here with the most experiance, but it would be an easier build to to goto the ls1 build.. I am a bit older than most of the members of these forums, but unless you are a very good driver a power to weight ratio in that range can get you dead quick.. You may be someone that can manage it with no problems, but I have a few friends ( no longer with us) that misjudged their talent.. otherwise cubic inches are cheaper than art..
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my car is under 20k including the car (it's a $500 car)
Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 954098)
No if you want 350hp it is gonna cost you 17k just for the engine just like in this thread:
This is what a 13K engine build gets you.... |
holy fuuuuu 17k for an engine just to make 350whp:laugh:
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I'm tempted to register on the site and get ready for the part out.
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Originally Posted by cymx5
(Post 956092)
I'm tempted to register on the site and get ready for the part out.
that thread makes me nauseous and disgusted. He went full retard. not to mention he makes statements like so: Ok, so now on to your questions/comments for the week: 1.) Quote time: Yep, start your quote early. It isn't so much the overall items that need to be considered - it is actually all the subcomponents that one doesn't necessarily consider. In my case I had already done some extensive mods so a lot of time and effort was put into making sure the next step would work with where the car was already at. If possible, always jump to the last stage of a build rather than building up to it. This way integration is actually less of an issue (imo). 2.) The term "investment": Ah, ok... I wasn't really clear here. Investment usually entails the notion that one is looking to retain or make money on something. It also usually entails the notion that the item invested in WILL be sold int he future... In my case it may be a little more complex than that. I actually consider an investment in terms of what I will get out of an item in the future. This basically boils down to the notion that I will never part with Mica (probably be buried with the car). Thus, investing in her is important so that I will continue to get something (happiness, satisfaction, etc.) in the future. It doesn't hurt to know that she will probably still be worth something in the future (monetarily speaking) but there is no way I am getting my money back out of her. If you want that to a certain degree (perhaps break even? Maybe? Not really...) then you are better off with a LS swap and doing the work yourself (to offset the cost of the swap). 3.) Cost: Yep, the build does include the full stroker (thanks for the confirmation MazdaNoob). The crank alone runs $3K. p.s.I think Brain has a stroker crank in stock pm him if you're interested. It's sitting right next to his previously mentioned adapter plate. |
Thus, investing in her is important so that I will continue to get something (happiness, satisfaction, etc.) in the future |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 956119)
And when all is said and done, he will be left with his thumb up his asshole like 40 grand in the hole wondering why he didn't buy lightly used c6 z06 or something like that.
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Originally Posted by krissetsfire
(Post 956115)
p.s.I think Brain has a stroker crank in stock pm him if you're interested. It's sitting right next to his previously mentioned adapter plate.
thanks, forgot about my stroker crank! |
For $3k I can get a lot of stroke on my crank.
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Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 956227)
For $3k I can get a lot of stroke on my crank.
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hell, for 3k I'll hone your combustion chamber
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For $3k i might pre-detonate and blow my rod if i was honing your combustion chamber.
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Don't forget to use some assembly lube at the rimmed tip of my piston... i got a overbored size.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 956072)
holy fuuuuu 17k for an engine just to make 350whp:laugh:
But as they said there, if you do it yourself you can save a ton. I'm just under $10k with it in reality. All said and done, FM is only charging me $2400 in labor for this project. That is about a full day of labor. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 956232)
hell, for 3k I'll hone your combustion chamber
hell, for $3k you can probably get a long-rod. |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 956266)
I am in the wrong line of business.
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I usually read through the troll threads as there's usually some useful info to come out of them.
This one? Nope. Other than some people's sexual preferences. |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 956266)
All said and done, FM is only charging me $2400 in labor for this project. That is about a full day of labor. $100 per hour times 24 hours! That's a full day's work right? :rofl: |
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 956275)
$100 per hour times 24 hours! That's a full day's work right? :rofl:
So... $2400 sounds about right. I think in the future, i'm never letting another shop touch my car again for anything other than tuning, though. |
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Thats why you gotta get an estimate first. 300 to do 30 minutes worth of labor is quite a profit at least thats how long it took me to do my boost gauge including moving my stock radio to the bottom slot.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1354764078 I take it they charge 100 an hr for tunning? |
I did 350whp for about 10k if you do all the labor and tuning yourself. If you have to pay some some the labor and tune it good luck.
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FM is not in the wrong here at all. If they can charge that then more power to them! I am jealous :)
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No one is blaming FM for charging that. LOL
I for one applaud them for it. I just laugh at the poor idiot with tons of disposable income that's throwing it away like its going out of style |
Also it finances fun stuff like those COT wing mounts that Keith is working on! Keep on charging those old m.net guys.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 956277)
They did get me for about $650 for a MAF delete pipe, boost gauge, a-pillar pod and install, and 2 hours of tuning.
So... $2400 sounds about right. I think in the future, i'm never letting another shop touch my car again for anything other than tuning, though. |
I heard your mom charges $26.50
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 956450)
I heard your mom charges $26.50
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Originally Posted by triple88a
(Post 956376)
Thats why you gotta get an estimate first. 300 to do 30 minutes worth of labor is quite a profit at least thats how long it took me to do my boost gauge including moving my stock radio to the bottom slot.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1354764078 I take it they charge 100 an hr for tunning? |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 956445)
Dyno time is usually $125-200 an hour depending on where you are at. So 2 hours of dyno time could easily been $300-400 out of that $650. That leave $250-350 for install times. At $100 an hour for labor I could seem them taking 3 hours to do a perfect job. While overall for us it sounds expensive, for good quality work it may be worth it.
They did the gauge install in 20 minutes, and i wouldn't call it a perfect job. The pod doesn't sit against the pillar correctly, 2 of the pushpin holes were drilled too large so they constantly fall out. I bought a new pair of A-pillars and i'll be moving the gauge under the radio myself and taking a whole 45 minutes to do a perfect job. As for the tune, the car is barely drivable. I love the guys there to death, they're all great people, but like i said, i've never been big on paying a shop to actually do work, and this reminded me why. It rare that i can find a place that can do better work that i can without charging obscene amounts of money. Will i buy parts from FM in the future? Probably. :) |
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