5x timing wheel?
searched a bit. Found a bit of info from the company but you know how that goes. (No offence)
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What do you want to know? What about it. Its like the FM NB trigger wheel I believe. Instead of the standard 4 tooth trigger wheel, it replaces that and has slots so you can advance it forward and backwards to add or reduce timing.
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Originally Posted by blkmkiii
(Post 1424141)
searched a bit. Found a bit of info from the company but you know how that goes. (No offence)
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I guess my question is does the ecu come into play and bring the timing back to oe specs? Any actual other than buttdyno gains?
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We're talking about an 80's mazda ecu. No, it does not.
Butt dyno gains are very deceptive because most people's butt-dyno's are miscalibrated. It's cheap enough for you to get, try, and report back your actual findings instead of asking silly questions about a super cheap part that's been used for years now. |
I mean I don't really understand the point of the 5x timing wheel. In my mind at least when boosting, you buy a MS so you can use the stock one. If you are boosting without a MS and want to use it to retard the timing I guess that works. I don't really know what your plans are for fuel though at that point.
For a naturally aspirated car I guess you could install it and increase timing a tiny bit. The only issue I see with that is that you now need premium fuel which is a $0.30-$0.50 more a gallon. Which is easily $3-$5 more a fill up. That seems expensive to me for a very marginal increase. |
n/a guys pay absurd prices for 2hp gains. we will just never understand :D
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1424165)
We're talking about an 80's mazda ecu. No, it does not.
Butt dyno gains are very deceptive because most people's butt-dyno's are miscalibrated. It's cheap enough for you to get, try, and report back your actual findings instead of asking silly questions about a super cheap part that's been used for years now. |
It's simply a device that lets you do the same thing as the NA guys can do with the CAS. IE, bump timing a bit for some more power up top. IMO the gains will be useless without a dyno. But if you're running an NB N/A, and you've done I/H/E, it's a great product for just a few hp if you don't want to invest in an aftermarket ECU.
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edited for bump since my brain tarded out on the original joke I made *no sleep struggles*
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1424168)
I mean I don't really understand the point of the 5x timing wheel. In my mind at least when boosting, you buy a MS so you can use the stock one.
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Before I had my megasquirt, and was naturally aspirated, I had the 5x wheel on my car. It seemed to give more power in lower rpms. I have VVT motor so I was using high test anyway. I ran it with 15 degrees of advance. If I was going to keep a car basically stock I would probably put it back on.
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