94 sohc protege pistons in a miata?
 

I have been searching and read once that 92-94 pistons from a SOHC protege motor would make 8.2:1 compression with a Miata head. Can anyone confirm this is true? And I am assuming it would be because of the pistons and that the rods and crank are the same in a protege and Miata motor?

Valve clearance.

What about it?

My guess would be the lack of DOHC valve pockets, on SOHC pistons.

Ahh... I read they are dished, let me see if I can pull the link up. Maybe who said it will have good credibility around here.

Well, I can't find it now. Bump? Any drop in lower comp pistons

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if you're gonna attempt really weird crap, you gotta not be dumb and cheap too.
if you're dumb just buy proper pistons, because sounds like you put in a whopping 2 seconds of effort actually thinking about this and researching it, its quite obvious why it wouldn't work.

18psi, I've actually spent the better part of two hours scouring this website and a protege website. I found I once on this website at some point and they mentioned the pistons were dished, and you gave me this idea with your rods only method. I'm merely trying to minimize down time, and didn't want to have to bolt my head in and put clay on the piston...

Nevermind, signed up on a protege forum. They work well, hold up like Miata pistons do and drop the compression somewhere in the 8.3:1 neighborhood. DOHC swap is fairly common. So all I have to do is buy some good rods. Good info to know around here though.

Really?
News for me. We actually tried this before, installed some of those weird shaped pistons into a 99 and it ran like junk, clicking and clacking and making what sounded like piston to valve contact. You might want to double check clearances just in case.

Damn.... I guess I will. I read a few deals of people swapping on Miata heads.... When did y'all do this and what block and head?

I wonder if they have different widths between pistons?

Nope.

It was a 99 engine that was siezed. We took it apart, cleaned it up, the pistons were unusable, he replaced em with funky looking ones out of a protege, I remember the domes were completely different shape. They "fit", and didn't make contact when we spun the engine over by hand. Everything else was the same 99 bp4w engine.

Then when he started driving the car, it ran like absolute junk, clicking and clacking down low, and I'm guessing it pulled timing from all that noise because it was completely gutless down low, then opened up drastically up top after about 4500.

I wouldn't take my chances if doing this much work to be honest.

I'm just attempting to find a low compression option without buying forged pistons, but if it has to be, then so be it. Won't be my first nor last time lol.

Stock NA pistons are 9:1. I don't think you NEED anything lower than that at stock piston power levels, though obviously 8.6:1 is better.

That was my thought. Why do you want ultra low compression pistons? To run ALL OF THE BOOST! And what happens if you run ALL OF THE BOOST on cast pistons?
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1398797934

Go get forged low compression pistons, or stick with stock cast compression pistons.

I've got a BP4W swapped 91. So my compression is at 9.5:1. That's the reason I am looking around.

So what's the reason?

9.5 is not high compression. at all. this is 2014, we have the technology to control engines without running absurd 7:1 compression ratios

You're right, we do have the technology, but with lower compression I can run more boost and timing. And 8.6 does sound enticing.

All of this discussion is useless unless we're talking about forged rods. And then if we ARE talking about forged rods and stock pistons, then you want to just keep what you have or move to 10:1s and run E85.

Stock rods + Stock B8 pistons = full retard

I'm not talking about stock rods at ALL. I know I need forged rods, I'll be going to a BE pump, MS2 ETC. And no e85 here in east TX unfortunately.... So I guess I'll be sourcing new pistons. I enjoy driving the Miata too much to have it down that long.

Forged rods = Stock NB pistons for ghettobuilt E85 motor

or

= forged pistons in a flavr of your choice.

Don't fuck about with shitty oem 8.3:1 pistons that won't get you anywhere.

throw some supertechs in there I do believe they are the lower priced of the forged pistons

then just crank it up :)

^looks like that's the plan.... Apparently even though the b8 pistons do give lower compression they've got a thin wall somewhere on them and don't hold up well to a bit of power or much detonation. Yes I know detonation is a no no, but I would hate to blow my motor while tuning it lol.

They've got a weaker ring land than the others. Skirts are weaker as well.

Your idea was good and others have done stock pistons with forged rods and are happy with 300whp. I know the d16 civic guys run forged rods and pistons from vitara to lower compression and run 300+ whp on a budget build. I guess no one has found any such good option for miata yet. Keep thinking outside the box.

Why? We already have awesome affordable piston choices that don't involve getting intimate with a shitty 25 year old motor.

But bro, don't you want to be different? -__-

Lol, I haven't checked this in a few days. It's not about being different for me, just taking 18psi's rods only approach and trying to extend it a bit further. But if it isn't a good idea, it isn't a good idea.

True

I like you.