I never straightend one with the cams in.
I do not see any reason to do it like that. |
Only reason I see is to try and keep the cam journals in line. If you've never had a problem with it I'm guessing you either line bore after or it doesn't affect the cam journals.
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So a random question for you Bogus. Is it possible to set correct valve clearance with the head detached from the block? I know in the FSM it says to put the cams at specific spots when measuring, so I was wondering how you do that without the Timing belt on to hold them in the correct locations.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 962309)
So a random question for you Bogus. Is it possible to set correct valve clearance with the head detached from the block? I know in the FSM it says to put the cams at specific spots when measuring, so I was wondering how you do that without the Timing belt on to hold them in the correct locations.
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 962305)
Only reason I see is to try and keep the cam journals in line. If you've never had a problem with it I'm guessing you either line bore after or it doesn't affect the cam journals.
With this head was warped .012 across the bottpm, but the intake cam bore was still perfect, and the exhaust side had about .002 I could see more issues having the cam in with the bolts for the caps , galluing and ripping the threads out.
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 962309)
So a random question for you Bogus. Is it possible to set correct valve clearance with the head detached from the block? I know in the FSM it says to put the cams at specific spots when measuring, so I was wondering how you do that without the Timing belt on to hold them in the correct locations.
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 962321)
Not directed at me, but it's totally doable. You just need to set the lobe pointed away from the lifters you're checking, and that sets another set of lobes pointed straight down at a set of lifters. You can't do it with the head laying flat on a bench (at least not without being careful), but you can definitely get the cams to stay where they are without the TB. I do the valve lash on our new motors before the TB or cam gears go on.
Like Sav said, as long as the lash you are setting, the cam is on the heel you can set it. |
nice to see your back! we bolted my head up and still waiting for the fabricator to finish up so we can get tuning! Is this Aarans head?
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HW.. No, Not Aarons head....His is getting much more involved....
Just a customers sent in for some play time. :D Dang.. I was wanting to hear some reports on how yours was doing!! |
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The straignting worked.
.005 is a tad "sticky" going under, and a .006 will not go. Attachment 62937 Now to carry on with the head build |
Damn! What kind of temps are we talking about?
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Originally Posted by EO2K
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Damn! What kind of temps are we talking about?
Get the head too hot and all the machined areas will distort, like the cam bores and bucket bores. No more than 350* and longer than it takes to bake a 20lbs turkey! It spent 7 hours in the oven. |
Originally Posted by BogusSVO
(Post 962853)
Not as much as you would think.
Get the head too hot and all the machined areas will distort, like the cam bores and bucket bores. No more than 350* and longer than it takes to bake a 20lbs turkey! It spent 7 hours in the oven. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 962907)
So do you have an oven at the shop, or do you take it home to do that part?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
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So do you have an oven at the shop, or do you take it home to do that part?
I have a gas fired one at the shop I clean heads and other parts in.
Originally Posted by Zabac
(Post 962917)
I would not put anything with anti-sieze in my home oven.
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This is relevant to my interests. Subscrib'd.
Bogus, do you always just bolt down the center of the head when you straighten them like that? |
You bolt down where the worst of the warp is, and commonly that is the center.
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very interesting.
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I'm sure there is some mystical art in selecting the shim stock thickness and then torque spec to the plate as well. That looks like a big ass chunk of steel right thar.
This is what I was thinking when I asked about "straightening" earlier. I honestly didn't think you were going to deck 0.012" off this thing. Do you find that you have to line hone the cam bores after the the trip to the oven? |
It is a big ol' cunk of steel. lol
The line bore of the cams is fine, no need to line hone. They were not far off to begin with. No measurable distortion on the intake and less than .002 on the exhaust. |
I wonder if I can find a local shop as good as you.
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I couldn't. That's why you're looking at it.
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