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Aluminum Con Rods
NOTE: I have divorced this discussion about aluminum rods from this thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t40553/ -Perez http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4..._3572JPG-1.jpg |
Bad heat treating from the get-go, perhaps. |
That doesn't appear to be heat treated at all, solid billet pieces, you can still see tool marks in the center.
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machined aluminum rods? not even polished/blasted to remove the maching marks? smells like a rebuild waiting to happen.
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That split rod might make a good model for the MT.net t-shirts!
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 485414)
machined aluminum rods? not even polished/blasted to remove the maching marks? smells like a rebuild waiting to happen.
You can see tooling marks on some of these American-made units, for example: Aluminum Connecting Rods |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 485428)
They're somewhat popular with the guys running 500 hp / liter. Lighter weight than steel = less inertial strain at high RPM.
You can see tooling marks on some of these American-made units, for example: Aluminum Connecting Rods |
^ what he said. rounded corners and I can't see machining marks very well.
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I believe that's a BME rod from an evo actually.
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Originally Posted by Halcyon
(Post 485531)
I'm waiting for the post to say a specific "made is China" rod is as good as or close to belfab or the like.
:D
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 485489)
^ what he said. rounded corners and I can't see machining marks very well.
http://www.bmeltd.com/a_images/rodcover.jpg Thing is, and I admit that I'm no ME, but that sucker split right down the middle, through the most perfectly rounded parts of the assembly. To me, that screams "materials defect". But we're threadjacking. |
Wow... Those billet rods look cool! For $600 they are more expensive but they do offer a lot of weight savings.. The split one isn't what I'd like to see. No one can put a bend eagle or chinese rod in here (cheap H-beam).
Would somebody considder those billet rods? |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 485404)
That doesn't appear to be heat treated at all, solid billet pieces, you can still see tool marks in the center.
I was referring to Heat treating before the CNC process. You have to heat treat the material at least once, sometimes several times, just to get it up to par for use. Of course, it's hard to say what caused the failure like that, but, to me, it looks like a flaw in the grain of the metal. |
i think it's high time the aluminum cnc rods BS ended. nobody here will ever buy them. and if they do, I'll make a hat out of fruit roll-ups and eat it.
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(Someone F'ed up there.
JE's are good stuff. They will spec out different grades of hardness to be used for different applications and power adders. When I told them that I was using nitrous, they speced an alloy specific to the demands that nitrous creates. Which is actually a little softer to have some "give" if I recall. Edit. This post was originally in the JE vs Wisco vs Eagle vs Carrillo thread.) BTW, back to the aluminum rods. Hustler's pic is not a BME rod. I have used them, and all of them have "BME" in the casting just like the photo in Joe Perez's pic. |
Originally Posted by miata2fast
(Post 486131)
BTW, back to the aluminum rods. Hustler's pic is not a BME rod. I have used them, and all of them have "BME" in the casting just like the photo in Joe Perez's pic.
I think I found the problem. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 486148)
I think I found the problem.
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Fuck aluminum, its all about that titanium yo!
http://www.desmoworks.com/images/085015620331A.jpg Now where's that money tree... |
Originally Posted by miata2fast
(Post 486131)
I have used them, and all of them have "BME" in the casting
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 486148)
I think I found the problem.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 486105)
and if they do, I'll make a hat out of fruit roll-ups and eat it.
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There is an advantage to aluminum rods. They are certainly not used in road racing or street use, at least not much, but if you are drag racing, and have a huge turbo or shot of nitrous, they are spongy enough to soften the hit to the crankshaft and main caps. The only real downfall to them, is there is no way of knowing when they fail. X-raying them will not show fatigue areas in aluminum (unless something new is out there to test them). That is why you have to change them every so often (What I was told any way).
Also you are not supposed to downshift a motor with them, because they have very little tensile strength. Downshifting is not done in drag racing. |
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