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Another Wiseco Ring Gap
Hiya, browsed through the threads related to Wiseco ring gaps and unfortunately I havent found an answer to my problem. Dont flame too hard for the question ;P
Bought a set of Wiseco 83.5mm NPR XX rings and all of the 2nd rings are larger out of the box than specified by Wiseco's sheet (bore * 0.0055 which would be 0.018") at 0.023" - 0.024" I also have a top ring that was opened up to 0.022" which is larger than the 0.01643" which I was going to round up to 0.017". Are either or both of these a problem? If the top ring is an issue no big deal as its easy enough to buy a new set but Im a little more concerned that all 2nd rings are considerably over the minimums from Wiseco |
What pistons are you using and what is the piston to wall clearance?
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Originally Posted by David Lewallen
(Post 1662592)
Hiya, browsed through the threads related to Wiseco ring gaps and unfortunately I havent found an answer to my problem. Dont flame too hard for the question ;P
Bought a set of Wiseco 83.5mm NPR XX rings and all of the 2nd rings are larger out of the box than specified by Wiseco's sheet (bore * 0.0055 which would be 0.018") at 0.023" - 0.024" I also have a top ring that was opened up to 0.022" which is larger than the 0.01643" which I was going to round up to 0.017". Are either or both of these a problem? If the top ring is an issue no big deal as its easy enough to buy a new set but Im a little more concerned that all 2nd rings are considerably over the minimums from Wiseco |
Originally Posted by Amnix
(Post 1662629)
Generally, the ring gap you're seeing for the 2nd rings (0.023"-0.024") is a bit larger than the spec but still within a reasonable range. The larger gap can help with higher performance or tolerance for heat expansion, especially in boosted or high-performance engines. As for the top ring being at 0.022", it's a bit over the spec, but it's still not a huge deal unless you’re building a very specific setup.
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Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1662623)
What pistons are you using and what is the piston to wall clearance?
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If the ptw is relatively large the rings will have a large end gap out of the box. I prefer to run an extra .001” ptw over the FI spec with the ST pistons. A .001” increase in bore dia equals .003” in end gap.
The end gap will increase about .003-.004” with some use. .020 for the top is ok, anything under .018” is too tight for higher boost. The second ring doesn’t really matter, it’s just a scraper.
Originally Posted by David Lewallen
(Post 1662648)
Im running Supertech 83.5mm 8.8:1 which was recommended by Fab9. Cylinders were bored 0.02" over to accommodate. Im unsure on piston-to-wall clearance but included with the pistons from Fab9 were 83.5mm piston rings from wiseco
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Aways remember with ring gaps gap at highest boost & temperature planned then add a bit.
To big even by a lot is safe. To small, even by a little is disastrous. |
I recently put in a set of Wiseco pistons and rings in my NB2 block, bored to 84 mm.
I don't remember the gap numbers. What I do remember is I looked at the numbers on the sheet that came with it, thought they seemed a bit off, and called Wisco for technical support. The guy I spoke to said the sheet is but a guideline. He then looked up specific recommendations for my application, road racing, with 8 psi boost, and gave me some numbers. First ring gap was a bit larger than the sheet, second was a bit smaller. Just call them, they made them. |
The rings are made by NPR.
Originally Posted by Icedawg
(Post 1662756)
I recently put in a set of Wiseco pistons and rings in my NB2 block, bored to 84 mm.
I don't remember the gap numbers. What I do remember is I looked at the numbers on the sheet that came with it, thought they seemed a bit off, and called Wisco for technical support. The guy I spoke to said the sheet is but a guideline. He then looked up specific recommendations for my application, road racing, with 8 psi boost, and gave me some numbers. First ring gap was a bit larger than the sheet, second was a bit smaller. Just call them, they made them. |
Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1662758)
The rings are made by NPR.
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