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concealer404 02-25-2014 12:32 PM

Begi "Racer" re-route
 
Tell me about this.

BEGI Miata Racer Coolant Re-Route

Wondering if this little gem is the reason why our Miata struggles to keep water temps above 140-150F on the highway.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-25-2014 12:39 PM

This has been discussed in length, and the general consensus is that it is an apocalyptic failure of a design that offers only drawbacks with no improvement on the stock cooling system.

18psi 02-25-2014 12:41 PM

search n00b.

wait.

actually yeah that's right, search n00b.

:giggle:

concealer404 02-25-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1105996)
This has been discussed in length, and the general consensus is that it is an apocalyptic failure of a design that offers only drawbacks with no improvement on the stock cooling system.

Thooper.

So be as it may, doesn't sound like it's causing my over-cooling, though, correct.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1105998)
search n00b.

wait.

actually yeah that's right, search n00b.

:giggle:


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393350232


Sorry, i am n00b. I'm used to looking at this:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393350355


Not this:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...20na%25203.jpg

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-25-2014 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1106000)
So be as it may, doesn't sound like it's causing my over-cooling, though, correct.

This is exactly what it does. Makes the engine never warm up with negligible benefit to cooling.

concealer404 02-25-2014 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106001)
This is exactly what it does. Makes the engine never warm up with negligible benefit to cooling.


Ah hah! I thank you, good sir.

Now to see how easily this thing can be reversed...

hornetball 02-25-2014 12:56 PM

Never saw that. Damn, that's stupid.

Leafy 02-25-2014 03:13 PM

Wouldnt a racer re-route just be a kia neck directly on the back of the head with a 1/4" hole drilled in the thermostat and no heater core at all?

concealer404 02-25-2014 03:16 PM

I don't know.

I'm guessing this thing is never going to see reasonable temperatures until this modification is reversed, right?

Fireindc 02-25-2014 03:23 PM

lol, did you get an NA?

Also, that re-route has been discussed on this forum many times with the exact conclusion in this thread.

Get the standard re-route, it actually works.

thenuge26 02-25-2014 03:24 PM

Yup. You might as well not have a thermostat as long as that "reroute" is installed. Honestly I'm not sure why Begi even sells them anymore, even on a full-time track only car it's a bad idea.

You MIGHT have a shot with it installed if you put some cardboard in front of the rad, if you really need to drive it somewhere in an emergency.

shuiend 02-25-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1106095)
I don't know.

I'm guessing this thing is never going to see reasonable temperatures until this modification is reversed, right?

Depends on location. I ran the Begi Racer reroute for a few years on my car because that is what they shipped with their kits. During the winter in VA driving on the interstate I would never get above 140-150F, during the summer and such I could get up to normal temps, if just took me a while. I will say when I was on the Dyno in July down in Georgia, the reroute worked excellently keeping the car cool then.

Leafy 02-25-2014 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1106100)
Yup. You might as well not have a thermostat as long as that "reroute" is installed. Honestly I'm not sure why Begi even sells them anymore, even on a full-time track only car it's a bad idea.

You MIGHT have a shot with it installed if you put some cardboard in front of the rad, if you really need to drive it somewhere in an emergency.

Or if you just kink the heater core line. My car gets up to temp just fine (while up on jack stands idling to burp the cooling system), even in below freezing temps with the oil cooler's coolant line going to the upper radiator hose. You just cant have the full flow of the heater core going there.

concealer404 02-25-2014 03:29 PM

Hrm ok. Gives me something to think about.

TurboTim 02-25-2014 04:00 PM

So they are taking the heater core return line and putting it before the radiator instead of into the waterpump?

Race cars have heaters?

hornetball 02-25-2014 05:02 PM

Yep. And it still preserves the thermostat on the front of the engine. So the more the thermostat opens (when it FINALLY gets hot), the more the engine gets starved of coolant. Solves nothing. But probably an engine rebuilder's best friend.

Leafy 02-25-2014 05:05 PM

Wait I thought it was an add on to the normal re-route.

hornetball 02-25-2014 05:07 PM

Oh. Maybe it is. All I saw was that T into the upper radiator hose (which implies keeping the front T-stat). Am I looking at it wrong?

Leafy 02-25-2014 05:07 PM

The long re-route hose would still be the upper radiator hose.

concealer404 02-25-2014 05:11 PM

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I'm confused. What do i have? It tees into the upper radiator hose.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393366292


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