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sixshooter 11-29-2010 05:27 PM

Mmmm, ass spaghetti !!!



OP - I've never heard this question before. -Sisyphus

flounder 11-29-2010 07:24 PM

That pic should be hondacivicsi's new avatar.

Fireindc 11-29-2010 08:44 PM

Not to be a bitch or anything, but nsfw tag before you post a photo like that PLEASE.

Stealth97 11-29-2010 08:55 PM

Thanks for the NSFW tag jackass

leatherface24 11-30-2010 12:11 AM

Damn it people fine!

miataspeed2005 11-30-2010 08:36 AM

There's people that have blown their engines at 0psi then there's people like leatherface running 21psi just fine, I run 17psi and there's plenty of more people too.

buffon01 11-30-2010 09:37 AM

I've learn no to click on any of Leatherface's links if I anywhere but home.

Braineack 11-30-2010 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 663336)
I've learn no to click on any of Leatherface's links if I anywhere but home.


you just learned that?

leatherface24 11-30-2010 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 663336)
I've learn no to click on any of Leatherface's links if I anywhere but home.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 663347)
you just learned that?

The confusion with his learning capabilities is where?:giggle:

EasyEJL 12-02-2010 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 663318)
There's people that have blown their engines at 0psi then there's people like leatherface running 21psi just fine, I run 17psi and there's plenty of more people too.

Since I have a similar question, how many miles were on the engine before you started running 17psi, and how many have you put on since?

Chiburbian 12-02-2010 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by EasyEJL (Post 664406)
Since I have a similar question, how many miles were on the engine before you started running 17psi, and how many have you put on since?

I am guessing what you are asking essentially is if high milage motors are more dangerous to add force induction to, and if they survive long in that condition.

The problem is we need to specify what it means to "blow." If you mean fail by any method - then yes. It is possible that by adding extra load to an engine you can cause it to fail sooner than it would have from normal load conditions.

If you mean fail catastrophically - like as in send a rod through the side of the block - then not usually. I have seen a stock motor fail on break-in at 0psi because someone failed to torque a bottom end bearing cap. I have also seen the same thing happen due to a bad tune.

Basically in both situations, unless something is ready to fail on its own or your tune is messed up, you are pretty safe.

The more you are asking your engine to do, the stronger/fresher it needs to be.

EasyEJL 12-02-2010 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 664420)
I am guessing what you are asking essentially is if high milage motors are more dangerous to add force induction to, and if they survive long in that condition.

The problem is we need to specify what it means to "blow." If you mean fail by any method - then yes. It is possible that by adding extra load to an engine you can cause it to fail sooner than it would have from normal load conditions.

If you mean fail catastrophically - like as in send a rod through the side of the block - then not usually. I have seen a stock motor fail on break-in at 0psi because someone failed to torque a bottom end bearing cap. I have also seen the same thing happen due to a bad tune.

Basically in both situations, unless something is ready to fail on its own or your tune is messed up, you are pretty safe.

The more you are asking your engine to do, the stronger/fresher it needs to be.

Basically thats it for me, as i'm still in the decision making process as to what miata I buy, and with what engine in what shape. Luckily I telecommute, so no need for a daily driver. So I doubt i'd put more than 2-3k miles on per year, and really i'm probably only looking at trying to reach the 180hp or so mark (as i'm looking for 5-6 second 0-60 times). So seems like a 6-8psi boost should easily hit that, and from the sounds of it not hugely reduce engine lifespan.

gospeed81 12-02-2010 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by EasyEJL (Post 664425)
Basically thats it for me, as i'm still in the decision making process as to what miata I buy, and with what engine in what shape. Luckily I telecommute, so no need for a daily driver. So I doubt i'd put more than 2-3k miles on per year, and really i'm probably only looking at trying to reach the 180hp or so mark (as i'm looking for 5-6 second 0-60 times). So seems like a 6-8psi boost should easily hit that, and from the sounds of it not hugely reduce engine lifespan.



I turbocharged the Miata when it was my DD for a 200mi/day commute. 10-12psi, 180-200whp, and ragged on it for over a year.

It's all in the tune.

Chiburbian 12-02-2010 10:03 PM

Also a quick comment- the engine is only seeing higher stress when you are in the boost. A majority of the time your engine is just purring along like stock.


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