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psyber_0ptix 07-24-2018 08:41 PM

Those look like intake cams to me. Is the back end slotted for a CAS?


Here's the back of a Bp4w exhaust cam also found on VVT motors
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0f2575dd19.jpg

Joe Perez 07-24-2018 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1493097)
Those look like intake cams to me. Is the back end slotted for a CAS?

It's clear from the photo that there are not, since the last lobe (#1 aft) is basically sitting on the floor.

First-gen NBs had one sensor on the crankwheel, and another about halfway back the head on the intake side. I had this backwards.
The tabs were on the intake cam between #2 and #3 from '01-'05.

Nope, that's wrong too. They're at the rear. I just can't brain today.


From the bottom photo, it sure looks to me like there are sensor tabs between #2 and #3 on both of those cams:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59cec63d54.png


These are very clearly both '99-'00 intake cams.
These are very clearly both '01-'05 intake cams.

Maybe they are both '99 intake cams...

MasMiata 07-24-2018 10:04 PM

That's a bummer I guess. Anyone ever run 2 intake cams? 😂 any way to run them or just go ahead and find an exhaust cam from a donor? Anyways this is what me and my pal are up to tonight. Just got it dropped in.https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c2f4b783b6.jpg

Joe Perez 07-24-2018 10:19 PM

Why is it sideways?

MasMiata 07-24-2018 10:28 PM

My best friends 96 ek civic hatch b16a turbo car. Helped get the drivetrain in tonight. Just a little off topic.

Joe Perez 07-24-2018 10:29 PM

That doesn't really help me understand why the motor is facing towards the side of the car. Is he only driving the right-front wheel? If so, it seems that handling would be adversely affected.

MasMiata 07-25-2018 12:09 AM

Bruh this is a completely different build. Its a civic hatch with the b16a motor and a jdm b16 trans with lsd. He needed help tonight

Joe Perez 07-25-2018 07:05 AM

Still confused. It's normal for Civics to have their engines put in sideways?

MetalMuffins 07-25-2018 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1493182)
Still confused. It's normal for Civics to have their engines put in sideways?

Not sure if trolling... :ugh:

Joe Perez 07-25-2018 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by MetalMuffins (Post 1493188)
Not sure if trolling... :ugh:

Did some googling, found that this is considered "normal." Apparently, the engine drives the same wheels that do the steering, the differential is built into the transmission, and the wheels at the rear are pretty much just there to keep the back end of the car from dragging along the ground.

Hondas are weird.

MetalMuffins 07-25-2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1493190)
Did some googling, found that this is considered "normal." Apparently, the engine drives the same wheels that do the steering, the differential is built into the transmission, and the wheels at the rear are pretty much just there to keep the back end of the car from dragging along the ground.

Hondas are weird.

Strange machines indeed... I hear Audi does the same thing. But get this, they connect the back wheels to the drive train as well. :idea:

Joe Perez 07-25-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by MetalMuffins (Post 1493195)
I hear Audi does the same thing. But get this, they connect the back wheels to the drive train as well. :idea:

?!

Wouldn't that basically just be this, but without the ability to do useful work?


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4320d2a57c.png

concealer404 07-25-2018 08:53 AM

What's that thing that's on the front of that? I think it's that thing that gets done to moms? And a thing that Audis and Hondas do?

psyber_0ptix 07-25-2018 09:31 AM

Cool splitter bro

andyfloyd 07-25-2018 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1493182)
Still confused. It's normal for Civics to have their engines put in sideways?

BRUH

concealer404 07-25-2018 11:11 AM

Why would you put a FWD engine in a RWD car? That's just stupid.

MasMiata 07-25-2018 12:00 PM

Its a civic hatch how the hell is that a rwd car. Anyways back to the dual intake cams should I find an exhaust cam from another motor or is there anyway to run them

concealer404 07-25-2018 12:00 PM

I'd find a different motor.

Joe Perez 07-25-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1493276)
I'd find a different motor.

This.

Spun bearing, wrong cams, who knows what other surprises lay ahead.

Sometimes, life hands you a lemon. Unless life also hands you water, sugar, and ice, you gotta just toss that lemon over the fence and move on.

MasMiata 07-25-2018 01:19 PM

Well time and money isn't an issue for this build so if I have to take time to get the right stuff and find an exhaust cam and get it all refreshed that's what I'm doing the crank is first on the list but until I get it to the machine shop its gonna be cleaning and more cleaning


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