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Sparetire May 20, 2010 05:04 PM

It seems more RPM dependent than boost dependent.

Try a run where you just ease up to 5K RPM and the floor it. See how much boost you get initially and if it tapers off.

If it maxes at about 8 psig and basically behaves just like it did in the data posted above for any given RPM over 5000, I am thinking that your turbo is simply unable to keep up with the engines demand for airflow. The WG is closed, all exhaust is hitting the turbine, but the compressor simply cant push enough air to make more than 7 psig. I dont know why it cant, but thats my guess.

If you do the above test and get a peak up to say 21 psi really quickly then tapers back down again, then I suspect a leak somewhere, such as a BOV.

gianic May 20, 2010 05:26 PM

Good point. I will try this out tomorrow.
For the record I suspected the bov too and I changed it, but guess what.. the same situation.
If is the turbo that cannot build boost I will take psychodrugs. I've already blown 2 turbos...used. This one was new from atp.

shlammed May 20, 2010 06:23 PM

2871R should have a restrictor.

Sparetire May 20, 2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by gianic (Post 575989)
Good point. I will try this out tomorrow.
For the record I suspected the bov too and I changed it, but guess what.. the same situation.
If is the turbo that cannot build boost I will take psychodrugs. I've already blown 2 turbos...used. This one was new from atp.

What happened to the other two? How far apart were the failures?

gianic May 21, 2010 03:34 AM

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo-discussion-14/two-turbo-failures-3-months-41564/

gianic May 22, 2010 01:23 PM

I have some news. Very bad I am afraid.

I took out the turbo and pressurized air from the inlet and tapped the outlet.
Guess what. The air passed through oil exits. Both feed and return. When I tapped the oil in and out the air escaped around the compressor where the compressor housing bolts.

I destroyed another turbo.. again. It's obviously that I had positive pressure at the crankcase.



EDIT: WTF?? I read now on several forums that this situation is normal during boost leak test.

Laur3ns May 22, 2010 06:30 PM

Is your manifold falling off maybe?

gianic May 23, 2010 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 576846)
Is your manifold falling off maybe?

No I took it out ,is perfect.

gianic May 24, 2010 03:01 PM

Guys I found a 2nd huge leak. It was in the external. All of the air were escaping in the exhaust outlet. Time for a new one. And it was a fucking tial. :(


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