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Neilv 09-15-2017 12:36 PM

China 64mm TB knock-off
 
I was trolling around and came across this. Very similar but likely not the same qualit. Still though, has anyone tried or even seen this?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PQY-...f-c460ef89c255

concealer404 09-15-2017 12:41 PM

It's already on Ebay as well at $96, has been for a couple weeks.

I'm convinced enough that it's 100% exactly the same part that i'm putting one on my DD.

ByteVenom 09-15-2017 12:47 PM

Does a larger TB alleviate the effects of not having a square top?
Obviously it allows more flow into the intake manifold, but is it significant enough to make a difference?
Its much cheaper than a square top.

concealer404 09-15-2017 12:51 PM

Mainly it keeps your throttle from breaking and killing your motor.

18psi 09-15-2017 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by ByteVenom (Post 1439794)
Does a larger TB alleviate the effects of not having a square top?
Obviously it allows more flow into the intake manifold, but is it significant enough to make a difference?
Its much cheaper than a square top.

no

aidandj 09-15-2017 01:01 PM

Just wait until the matching intake manifold is on alibaba too.

concealer404 09-15-2017 01:09 PM

I'm going to run a 70mm TB on Hater. Because i can.

Savington 09-15-2017 01:21 PM

WhyI'llNeverSendDrawingsToChina.html

18psi 09-15-2017 01:22 PM

hahaha right?
The knockoff is getting knocked off.

Neilv 09-15-2017 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1439792)
It's already on Ebay as well at $96, has been for a couple weeks.

I'm convinced enough that it's 100% exactly the same part that i'm putting one on my DD.

Interesting. I'm late to the party then. I was waiting to pick one up used just for safety's sake but this is intriquing.

Probably just changed the CNC code a touch and few different bolts n bearings. Likely see these popping onto cars soon.

concealer404 09-15-2017 01:31 PM

I doubt they did that. My theory/hunch is that it's the same part made on a different line in the same factory, it's just not getting the last step of "put it in a Skunk2 box."

Skunk2 has been making this throttle for a loooonnnggggg time. It wasn't changed much for Miata application.

18psi 09-15-2017 01:47 PM

lol "changing things" is way too much effort for these places. the only things they actually "modify" are leaving off the previous companies logos and emblems.

or maybe it's not even that. maybe junk2 slaps their emblem on when these things arrive stateside, so in china these "knockoffs" are the actual part without even anything left off.

albumleaf 09-15-2017 02:21 PM

Yup, same as Junk2. I was somewhat seriously thinking about buying these in bulk on Alibaba as they're about $50 each there.

engineered2win 09-16-2017 03:19 PM

I'll wait until someone can compare it up close to the Junk2 TB. It would be tragic if I bought the cheap knockoff to prevent catastrophic engine failure and then the knockoff failed..
The Junk2 suddenly becomes appealing in the <$100 market. I find it mind boggling to buy a $250-300 TB and then have to dick with it to make it work properly; it's much more palatable for $80.

Art 09-16-2017 04:23 PM

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chicksdigmiatas 09-22-2017 02:04 PM

Just to clarify, what is the total set of fixes for a skunk 2 TB. I will upgrade to one of these over my epoxied stocker.

From what I have read and searched, the fixes for the skunk2 TB are redrilling the spring engagement hole so the throttle doesn't stick, and I read something about loctite, and some longer allen heads, but I didn't see it in once collective place, just spattered between build threads and whatnot.

turbofan 09-22-2017 02:50 PM

Hmm. I didn't do anything to my junk2 aside from get slightly longer bolts, but sometimes it idles high. maybe I need to do that spring mod.

I hate overpaying for stuff. shoulda bought the knockoff haha

.one lane 09-22-2017 03:39 PM

Minimum order quantity is 10 on aliexpress, buy a bunch and throw on a "Junk2" sticker on it and undercut OBX pricing.

OBX Billet Throttle Body Mazda Miata 99-05 1.8L 64mm BP-4W, BPT, BP-Z3 All | eBay

I only listed OBX since they're shipping from the states.

ElyasWolff 09-22-2017 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by .one lane (Post 1441289)
Minimum order quantity is 10 on aliexpress, buy a bunch and throw on a "Junk2" sticker on it and undercut OBX pricing.

OBX Billet Throttle Body Mazda Miata 99-05 1.8L 64mm BP-4W, BPT, BP-Z3 All eBay

I only listed OBX since they're shipping from the states.

Great idea! I have a laser etcher at work, maybe we can engrave the mt.net logo on them and sell them on ebay for more than the Junk2 = PROFIT!

.one lane 09-22-2017 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by ElyasWolff (Post 1441306)
Great idea! I have a laser etcher at work, maybe we can engrave the mt.net logo on them and sell them on ebay for more than the Junk2 = PROFIT!

Lol, if you did the throttle body sticking mod, it probably would be better than a legit skunk2 tb.

Anyways, I went ahead and bought one for science. If someone that has a legit skunk2 TB we can compare dimensions/quality/bearing/etc. if you guys want.


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