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oregonmon 07-17-2017 08:06 AM

Compression difference between USDM and JDM VVT motors?
 
Looking for a new motor for my rotrex'd VVT swapped 90. I was on the hunt for a bp4w as they are around here in Florida and a lot of the guys recommend them. Searching the threads, it's recommend for the slightly lower compression for rotrex boost.

There's also a couple VVTs, including an imported low miles JDM motor. Days of searching I'm getting conflicting info that the JDM BPZE/BP6D is 10.5:1 and the USDM is 10 1. Can anyone confirm or deny?

If I'm strictly 93 pump gas, is 10:1 compression fine for 230ish whp for track, autox, street car? If the JDM is 10.5:1, is that safe or getting out of hand?

Thanks.

Monk 07-17-2017 10:39 AM

I have a set of JDM VVT pistons.
Can confirm they are 10.5.

concealer404 07-17-2017 10:42 AM

The 10.5 motor won't be any weaker. Just may require a different tune. It can safely do 230whp just as well as the 10:1 motor can.

I wouldn't pay extra for one. I wouldn't pay less for one, either.

oregonmon 07-17-2017 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1428164)
I have a set of JDM VVT pistons.
Can confirm they are 10.5.

Thanks, did you order them or found used?

oregonmon 07-17-2017 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1428165)
The 10.5 motor won't be any weaker. Just may require a different tune. It can safely do 230whp just as well as the 10:1 motor can.

I wouldn't pay extra for one. I wouldn't pay less for one, either.

It's already a pretty good deal AND comes with a square top and warranty for $999.

18psi 07-17-2017 04:28 PM

rotrex doesn't make torque. you're totally fine with the higher compression

concealer404 07-17-2017 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by oregonmon (Post 1428232)
It's already a pretty good deal AND comes with a square top and warranty for $999.

Sounds like a no-brainer.

oregonmon 07-17-2017 10:12 PM

Thanks for the input guys.

MX5RACER 07-18-2017 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1428164)
I have a set of JDM VVT pistons.
Can confirm they are 10.5.

Can you please post pictures of the pistons? I purchased a JDM motor a while back and I would like know if this motor has the same pistons as yours.

konmo 07-18-2017 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by MX5RACER (Post 1428388)
Can you please post pictures of the pistons? I purchased a JDM motor a while back and I would like know if this motor has the same pistons as yours.

This is what my broken 10.5:1 JDM pistons looked like.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4295/...dc822e32_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4315/...99d080f1_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/...4485778e_b.jpg

MX5RACER 07-18-2017 09:51 PM

That looks a lot like a standard VVT piston.

Savington 07-18-2017 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by MX5RACER (Post 1428555)
That looks a lot like a standard VVT piston.

Stock USDM 01-05 pistons do not have that third step-up in the center.

MX5RACER 07-18-2017 10:15 PM

Brought the pictures up on an actual computer with a real screen not an iPhone and I see the difference now. Thanks.

konmo 07-18-2017 11:29 PM

Just leaving these here for who ever is interested.

USDM

JDM

USDM

JDM

Side by side

18psi 07-19-2017 12:10 AM

/\ very helpful, thanks

oregonmon 07-19-2017 09:08 AM

Yes, very helpful!

Placed the order for the JDM VVT with square top motor yesterday, hopefully it's not shit.

Savington 07-19-2017 11:36 AM

Interesting that they dropped the dome away from the spark plug in the center of the 10.5:1 slug.

nitrodann 07-19-2017 11:41 AM

Those are great photographs, thankyou.


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