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mr2daj 03-29-2012 05:31 PM

corrillo rod bolt torque setting
 
anyone have the torque specs for corrillo a-beam rods? stripped today to inspect after an oil pump failure and need to do them up again. engine is a fm short block.

Savington 03-29-2012 05:40 PM

The spec depends on which rod bolts you have. Rod bolts don't have a torque spec - they have a stretch spec, which is measured with a rod bolt stretch gauge.

You also need to replace the rod bolts unless you know how much they were stretched upon installation and you measured them before and after removing them to ensure that they haven't permanently deformed. A new set of ARP 2000 bolts is ~$70 IIRC.

mr2daj 03-29-2012 05:54 PM

thanks. need to order an ati damper and a good oil pump anyway so may as well get some new bolts whilst i am at it. any recommendations on where to get all of this?

BogusSVO 03-29-2012 06:58 PM

Savington... A bit odd that you say rod bolts do not have a torque spec. Every ARP Rod bolt set I have installed comes with both a torque spec and a stretch spec.

I will agree that ARP recommends using the stretch method over the torque method.

Savington 03-29-2012 07:45 PM

I've always read the torque "spec" as an estimation of what the proper preload should be achieved at. The real spec to follow is the stretch spec.

BogusSVO 03-29-2012 07:59 PM

That very well could be, And also why ARP says to torque the rod bolt, loosen, torque, loosen and then torque.

But if the ARP engineers thought that the torque method would not work, I think they would have never put it in the instruction sheet to begin with. May have also said to properly fasten the rod bolts a stretch gauge must be used.

bbundy 03-29-2012 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by BogusSVO (Post 855970)
That very well could be, And also why ARP says to torque the rod bolt, loosen, torque, loosen and then torque.

But if the ARP engineers thought that the torque method would not work, I think they would have never put it in the instruction sheet to begin with. May have also said to properly fasten the rod bolts a stretch gauge must be used.

It is stated as a streatch spec with a range of torque that it should take to get to the streatch value. If you reach the streatch value and the torque reqired to get it is low it means the bolt has had too much yield and should be replaced.

Bob

mr2daj 03-30-2012 07:53 AM

so should i replace my bolts anyway or can i reuse them? i would not have thought they would have been over stretched by flyin miata when the bottom end was built. would it be really bad if i just reused them ant torqued them just under the max torque spec?

Savington 03-30-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by mr2daj (Post 856147)
so should i replace my bolts anyway or can i reuse them? i would not have thought they would have been over stretched by flyin miata when the bottom end was built. would it be really bad if i just reused them ant torqued them just under the max torque spec?

You need to replace them. Rod bolt failure is a catastrophic event that will likely require a complete motor replacement.

mr2daj 03-30-2012 01:15 PM

yea your rite. ordering a damper and an oil pump today so may as well order some bolts too. going to make a stretch gauge tomorrow on the milling machine i think. got a brand new dial gauge sitting doing nothing. looks pretty simple to make.


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