drift miata turbo build
 

the car: 95, manual, C package, torsen lsd, 150K, and engine runs great. i will be replacing all the major gaskets, hoses, belts, and fluids before the turbo.

i'm looking at getting the begi-s kit, MSPNP(with IAT sensor, boost control, and fan control), 460cc RX-7 injectors, Ebay intercooler kit, HKS SSQV BOV, a custom 3" turbo back exhaust w/ only a cat, LC-1 Wideband, and all the odds and ends(like flywheel, clutch, etc.)

My goal with the car is to make it a competitve drift car. it's already got full suspension(coilovers, bushings, tie rods, end links), good rims(axis oldskool sakura 15x8), gutted, and my year of drifting experience.

i'm in no hurry on this project and money's not really a problem. i'm not looking for lots of power just enough to keep my drift going with no problem. my goal is around 210-220 whp. i see those numbers as more than enough to keep it going. if you guys think this is a good layout for my goal or if i dorked up anywhere i'm more than open to any suggestions. thanks!

Most here don't care for drifting.

But your goals/plans are reasonable.

Check out roadsterdrift.com if you havent already.

catalitic converters are over-rated!

I think your HP goals seem a bit low, what type of events are you planning on drifting at? it seems like it would be hard to keep the tires spinning at 80mph with only 200HP.

i thought again about the cat and i decided to go with a test pipe that i could remove and put in a cat when emissions came into play. yea i'm apart of roadster drift. i'm on here as to get full info and help from you guys on questions that will arrise during my build process. i learn fast and already have a great understanding.

Ditch MSpnp boost control solenoid, get a MBC. I'm guessing your going to get a 2554 or a 2560. 2554 will probably be better as it maxes out around your max power plus it has quick spool.

we dont spoon feed here!

i'm not gonna do 80 mph drifts. thats for the professionals. the top speed i'd do would only be like 35-40 mph. i'm just into ametur drifting personally.

i'm not gonna waste anyones time by asking dumb questions wonton. i'll only ask if it truely needs to be brought up. i was a member for half a year before i even posted. i make sure to use the search button. :D

i'm quite familiar with MBC's. why would the MBC be better than the solenoid from MS?

You will want to contact a member here named TURNS101 I believe he is a sponsored drifter and I think he runs around 400whp.

Good Noob!

run along now and play nicely with teh other kids! :giggle:

i've drifted my friends cars with around 250 whp and they do it just fine. but i'd def. like to talk to him about tips and what not. thanks gotpsi.

I have a pic of me drifting at Laguna at over 80mph on R-comps, but it was not on purpose. ;)

haha thats truely insane! i have lots of photos and a few videos of me. my car looks a lot different now but its me. lol whenever i get some pics of my car from my roommate(another miata drifter)i'll upload them here.

Using correct punctuation, spelling, and capitalization add 10whp and 7* of slip angle. SSQV's sound gay. Don't buy it. Get a tial or other suitable mans BOV.

I've always loved the sound of the SSQV personally. That's why I'm going for it this time. I've had a few different types(Tial, Greddy RS, and EGay crap)and that one's caputured my intrest the most for me. BTW chicksdigmiatas, what do you do at Lackland AFB? I'm Aircrew Flight Equipment(or Life Support as we were known).

Nutritional medicine. Lame as hell. I had a ssqv and it was cool for a week, then it was like nails on a chalkboard. I got pissed and grabbed some wire cutters and de whistled it by cutting the little fins. I want a tial, but wont pay for it while mine is still functioning. BTW have brain build you an MS, it is cheaper and better.

Oh? Would it be plug and play? I'm not looking forward to doing wire splicing.

I think he does you a harness and everything contact him.

No kidding? That's awesome! thanks a lot man!

You're going to need a biger boat. Trust me, I know a few things about Miatas and drifting.

Oh? Could you elaborate a little more doppelganger? Any Advice is great!

Well, what turbo are you going to run? What suspension do you have?
Honestly, your parts isn't isn't bad, but I think you need to aim a little higher on HP to bring up TQ...it's not about peak power numbers...and this is where getting the right turbo will either make you happy or hate the car and make you come back bitching and complaining that you're getting a 240gayx. Same goes with suspension. I'd also recommend getting a 3.9 rear gear. Don't forget the modified knuckles.

I have Tein Flex, FM butterfly Brace and Door bars, Haven't set on a turbo yet but for the power i'm looking at wanting the GT2556 out of the Begi-S kit fits well. And I'd NEVER get a 240sx. Those damn things are everywhere. I've always been the guy who bought the underdog. lol I've heard about the 3.9 gears. Where would I go about acquiring one? Also I've heard guys talk about modifying the knuckles. Why would I want to do this? I'm just an amateur drifter. I'm not looking to become a D-1 drifter. Just to go to event's like I do and have more power to slide.

Modified knuckles allow you to get much more angle and control the car much better. Even though the Miata can make tight turns, it's steering angle is moderate at best..which is fine for RR and autoX. But when it comes to drifting, the "lack" of angle causes you to pick up speed VERY quickly. Which is fine if you need to, but most of the times it's a problem. You see, a low(er) andgle drift requires MUCH more power to maintin proper wheel speed/wheel spin. Even at full-lock in a Miata, you're going to pick up speed rather quickly. Having more angle allows you to adjust your forward speed...more angle slows down/retains forward speed, less angle increases forward speed. Less power is required to hold high angles whereas low angles eat up tons of power. Couple that with a short wheel-base and it makes things difficult.

The 3.9 gears will add more mph range to each gear. The 4.1 is a bit short once you have real power and you'll find yourself on the limiter or wanting more revvs a lot of the time (how much of the time are you wishing 2nd gear had a bit more to it?). You can get the gears directly from Mazda or from a 1999-2003 6spd Miata.

I'm fine really with the speeds that the 4.10 rear give me for right now. I'll def. look into the modified knuckles once i get the hang of the car after the turbo kit is on. Thanks a lot man. This is some great advice!

lol @ 40mph drifts...
you will be bored of those after half of your first event.

But really, i am setting my car up to slide as well and 200whp was not enough. you should aim a little higher... you really want 3-400hp but thats definately beyond what the stock engine will take.

Get a 2860RS turbo (with 0.64 housing if your worried about spool) and you will be happy. i had this turbo with the 0.86 housing on my 1.6 and it was amazing for a stock engine.

Check out my build thread for pictures of modified knuckle action.

I can get plenty of wheelspin in 3rd (6spd + 3.9) but I can't keep forward speed down/can't tighten my radius due to the stock knuckles. I don't do a lot of drifting anymore (did a TON with my 96 and my 99), but I've had some fun with my 02 enough to know.

wheelspin is different than sliding. and street surfaces are different than track surfaces.
i dont doubt you can get it with your car either... but the tracks here are big and you need to be able to stretch your legs out all the way to redline to connect the corners.

If you had a small turbo and 200hp, you wouldnt be able to do it.

The tracks out here aren't big actually. their typically P-1 Go-Kart Tracks we get to use for drifting so their small. I've been drifting for a minute and from my personal experience 40mph drifts are just what I'm looking at. If I ever want to get more serious then I'll begin to upgrade and go a little more power. But for right now and from my personal experience it's best to progress slowly and getting the feel of upgraded power before going with high power numbers. 230 whp is over 100% jump in power vs what I'm messing with now.

Doppelgänger is right get some kuckles, they are dope, and would help a lot! go to roadster drift Chelsea sell em. But honestly just go out and drive, and then upgrade as you find it necessary, stock miata will teach you a lot.

I love go cart tracks: so much fun, car w/ coilovers, wheels otherwise stock.

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Mines pretty much stock as far as power goes. Minus full exhust, timing, and CAI. I'm used to the lack of power and I make up for it by using skill over brute power.

how does the SSQV sound now that you've snipped the fins out? ive been debating either doing that or replacing it with something else. i'd hate to cut it and have it sound like ass/more annoying, and then not even be able to sell it...

Hay

Hey jbrown. Have I ever met you before? I see your from Tucson. Do you know Mike or Sam with the white NA's? Mike's got the supercharged one.

PM'd you broski.
Hit me up.

Oh PS-
If you speak well and do a solid build, dont talk like a dip shit, dont think drift is faster than grip, and search before you ask, you can get along here ;)

You can take it apart and remove the whistler and see. I was just being lazy and snipped it and got pissed at hearing Barney the purple dinosaurs mom queef everytime i shifted. It is real quiet. Actually it isn't really noticable until you get to about 10 psi. Even then its just a quiet whoosh.

Great description on the BOV man!

Best advice in the thread so far.

I did some amateur drifting with 200hp in my 94. Mostly because it was cheap and the track was 10 minutes from my house and friends were running it. I can say I sucked but had a blast. With 200hp and about 200ft/lbs of torque you can definitely get the car sideways if you know what your doing. Rappadan took my car out and said it was one of the best setup miatas he had driven and did plenty of 65+ mph drifts in it.

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shuiend: No kidding? This is great information to learn. I might try to sqeak out 250 whp but I'll be quite happy with low 200's for getting started with decent power drifting.

Shoot me a pm. One of my friends was working to get his miata setup for drifting and it got t-boned today and I think he is going to part it out. I will get you his contact info. I know for sure that he had the modified knuckles.

Hell, I did a drift event back in a day in my red car with intake, header, exhaust, and badly tuned Megasquirt. Figure about 100-110whp or so? It was very fun and I definitely learned how to control my car better :). I actually picked up almost 3 seconds around track after that drift event because I wasn't afraid to get my rear end a little loose at 80mph.

urbansoot: That's what a lot of the 240sx guys who buy the sr20 swapped in or the V8 guys don't have: SKILL! I think every drifter wanting to learn should start in a low power, short wheelbase car like the Miata or AE86. IMO I've become a much better drifter from starting with my car due to the difficulty the car has.

Oh I have no problems hanging my tail out on the track if it happens. I had a blast going up turn 5 at Road Atlanta in 4th gear on slicks at full lock :giggle: It's a bad habit for me now though, esp. when doing autoX. I have a natural reaction when the tail steps out to just let it keep going and plant my foot....which is NOT what I need to be doing if I am trying to take 1st in my class.

35-40mph for drifting? Thats not even second gear!

Also, check out my build thread, its pretty much exactly what your plans seem to be.

Real men 4-wheel drift.

I Remember seeing this guy on YouTube with a WRX that drifted an entire warehouse complex. Guy was pretty much a god! His name is totally left my mind. What can I say? It's 230 am here! lol