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Faeflora 07-26-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 607257)
I think he means removing the VTCS butterflies, not gutting the plenum.
Im not sure what all goes into it but it may be possible to pull those suckers out of there and JB weld up the throttle shaft holes.

FWIW I have a fuckin gutted 01+ plenum in my GF's dad's trailer. Who wants me to do a back to back test! Yay! Fuck, I will do a whole intake manifold shootout on my own dime if you bitches send me them to test.

Hmm starting new thread

ismael_pt 07-26-2010 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 607305)
FWIW I have a fuckin gutted 01+ plenum in my GF's dad's trailer. Who wants me to do a back to back test! Yay! Fuck, I will do a whole intake manifold shootout on my own dime if you bitches send me them to test.

Hmm starting new thread

Does it looks like your frame rail?

RotorNutFD3S 07-26-2010 06:15 PM

lulz

http://www.mekalummezar.com/carpics/ul6.jpg

Faeflora 07-26-2010 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by ismael_pt (Post 607307)
Does it looks like your frame rail?

My frame rail fucked your dad for breakfast. I can post hot pics of intake if you want.

Aricjm15 07-26-2010 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 607311)
My frame rail fucked your dad for breakfast. I can post hot pics of intake if you want.

rule 34 on your frame rail?

bbundy 07-27-2010 01:56 AM

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Some pics of my modified 94 manifold.

Bob

Doppelgänger 07-27-2010 07:12 AM

Interesting...def. loks like something I'd like to try. How much did the EGR equipment impede into the plenum? Looks like a much better flow over the NB IM.

bbundy 07-27-2010 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 607549)
Interesting...def. loks like something I'd like to try. How much did the EGR equipment impede into the plenum? Looks like a much better flow over the NB IM.

I don’t think the EGR created much impedance to flow but it had to create some. It had a little hump right after the throttle body to create a disturbance for better mixing of the EGR gas. I was sort of conscerned the little hump might actually improve flow by creating a swirl but I decided to take it out anyway. My car started out as a 90 so it didn’t have EGR originally.

I suspect my manifold performs similar to some of the Honda setups, but with slightly longer runners. Seems like to me the short runners would be more tuned to RPM’s beyond where a Miata motor happily runs.

Bob

leatherface24 07-27-2010 11:53 AM

This is the intake mani I wanna use badly

http://performanceparts.com/part.php?partID=320138

http://performanceparts.com/performa...brock_4771.jpg

"The "Performer X" series of intake manifolds from Edelbrock are an ideal choice for high performance street or strip applications that have peak torque and horsepower bands in the 4500-8200 rpm range."

bbundy 07-27-2010 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 607665)
This is the intake mani I wanna use badly

http://performanceparts.com/part.php?partID=320138

http://performanceparts.com/performa...brock_4771.jpg

"The "Performer X" series of intake manifolds from Edelbrock are an ideal choice for high performance street or strip applications that have peak torque and horsepower bands in the 4500-8200 rpm range."

Interesting that my torque hump is more 3800 to 6000 rpm. Start loosing torque pretty rapidly at 7200. This is with a 2.0L stoker with all the Flyin Miata bells and wistles and a 99 head.

I don’t think it is the intake manifold that is the primary source for the torqe drop at high RPM though.

Bob

levnubhin 07-27-2010 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 607665)
This is the intake mani I wanna use badly

http://performanceparts.com/part.php?partID=320138

http://performanceparts.com/performa...brock_4771.jpg

"The "Performer X" series of intake manifolds from Edelbrock are an ideal choice for high performance street or strip applications that have peak torque and horsepower bands in the 4500-8200 rpm range."

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Faeflora 07-27-2010 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 607673)

I don’t think it is the intake manifold that is the primary source for the torqe drop at high RPM though.

Bob

What do you think is the primary source?

bbundy 07-27-2010 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 607694)
What do you think is the primary source?

probably cams Im guessing.

Bob

TURNS101 07-27-2010 01:01 PM

Bob, what you did with that intake is great.

I have had this question in my mind for a while.

Those pics def mad me feel like that IM is much better than my current 99gutted set up.

I may look into that after the Vegas event in a few weeks.

I am also interested in the new BEGI intake..

fooger03 07-27-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 607698)
probably cams Im guessing.

Bob

And a head that is generally poor flowing when the cams are open.

bbundy 07-27-2010 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 607817)
And a head that is generally poor flowing when the cams are open.

Yea I think it is a combo of the two.

The strong point of the Mazda BP engine compared to a Honda is mid range torque It is simply different than a 9000 rpm Honda. Putting a 9000 rpm Honda intake manifold on a Mazda head doesn’t suddenly make it flow like a Honda.

Bob


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