Engine building help please
 

I am going to rebuild the engine in my '99.

Since I live halfway around the world, it is a royal pain in the ass to get parts.
Not only shipping is too expensive, customs over here are seriously difficult and time consuming to deal with.

So, I will have everything I need shipped to a friend in the US who will bring them to me when he comes over in a few months.

This means I have to get everything right the first time, and if I get anything wrong, I will have to postpone the whole project for a long time.

Please look over my list and let me know what you think before I order complete my order.
Any input is welcome.

1999 Mazda Miata / 1.8 BP DOHC Engine/ 5 Speed

• Timing Belt with idler and tensioner pulleys
• ARP Head and Main Studs with nuts and washers
• Head gasket, MLS (OEM Mazda)
• Valve Cover Gasket
• F/R oil pan end seals
• Oil pick up gasket
• Intake manifold gasket set, including throttle body gasket and metal plenum gasket
• Injector o-rings (if they are not included in the intake gasket set)
• Exhaust manifold gasket
• Rear main seal, with gasket
• Front Crankshaft seal
• O-ring for oil cooler
• Dip Stick Tube O-ring
• Oil pump with gasket and o-ring (whichever is applicable, or both)
• Boundary Engineering Oil Pump Gears
• PCV (FOR 2004-2005 TURBO MIATA!!) X2
• PCV valve grommet
• NGK Spark Plugs, BKR7E, 2 sets (Total of 8)
• Main bearing set, stock size
• Rod bearing set, stock size
• Thrust bearings
• Thermostat, 180 and 195 degrees, 1 each with gaskets
• Engine block freeze plugs
• Gatorback 4060445 belt, X 2 (Must be gatorback, w/the slits across the grooves) This is for the S/C
• Plastigauge
• Fuel filter, aftermarket
• Spark plug gapper (the round one, not the one with wires..)
• Feeler gauge set (metric)
• Piston installation tool
• Assembly grease
• Gasket sealing spray
• Grey silicone (for the oil pan, etc.. – cartridge type is OK, too)
• O2 sensor socket (3/8 drive)
• I have stem seals, camshaft seals, a water pump (with gasket)
I do not need plug wires, I have a COP setup.
• Pistons, JE brand, 84.00 mm, 9:1 comp, comes with rings
• Intake valves, Supertech brand, Part # MAIVN 1204 (hi-flo) Set of 8
• Exhaust valves, Supertech brand, Part # MAEVN 1204 Set of 8
• Valve spring set, Supertech brand, Part # SPRK-MM18S (Set of 16 valves, with retainers and seats) (single valve set, not duals)
• Forged H-Beam rods, set of 4 (M-Tuned)

Oil pump pickup gasket.

He's got it 6th on the list.

Get a Boundery Engineering oil pump if its not already ordered... and bigger injectors if needed

I have a set of FIC 650s coming.

Does the BE pump make that much difference vs just the BE gears?

Don't use the stock head gasket. I used kinetic head gasket for my build. I have the same setup as you. Be careful with bearings. You need a line hone?

Don't listen to this guy, stock headgasket is great.

What bearings are you using though?
Complete BE oil pump is easier than getting the gears, they do all the measuring and setup, you bolt it onto your car.

^^^^^^ what he said

Freeze plug sealant? I'm not sure if that spray on type will work for the plugs.

Have you ever thought of over sizing your valves ?

Duly noted, thanks.
I'll ad that sealant to my list.

Actually, yes.
But I decided to stay with stock size valves in the interest of not risking the head itself, by keeping the machine work to a bare (required) minimum.

That's exactly what I had thought about the factory head gasket, as well.

As for bearings, I "think" they will be Clevite.

There is a bit of a price difference between the whole pump vs stock pump + gears.

I need to get a price for the pump first. That will tell me if I should get the whole pump, or just the gears from Travis.
I do have the means to measure clearances. Installation should be a breeze, btw.

(I am ordering all the standard issue -read OEM - parts from FATS in Alaska. Those guys give me a jobber price - even though I no longer live there - so I am expecting so save on whatever parts I get from them. The Turkish Lira - $ parity took a nose dive recently. 1 $ used to be about 1.40 TL. Now it's more like 1.85 to 1. Makes a huge difference. So, I need to do whatever I can to stay within a certain budget as approved by Mrs. Godless Commie.)

INSULATOR,INJECTION
Part No : 8574-13-257

Maybe an extra exhaust gasket. I reused them until recently when I had sealing problems.

I vote for ACL main bearings because they have a nickel core so your oil analysis will tell you when the mains are on the way out.

Your right. Risk a $5,000 investment on a stock head gasket. Sounds smart. Use stock clutch too. It will be just fine.....

Do you have any evidence to support this claim of the stock head gasket being bad? :facepalm:
We are currently running a stock head gasket on our 350whp time attack race car with zero issues and know of many other high power cars using stock head gaskets.

Do you sell stock head gaskets? I didn't like your attitude on the phone when i called and I'm not liking it now. I'm sure the stock gasket works up to a point, but that does not mean its better than a race head gasket. It's just added insurance for a big investment. Not even a thought in my opinion.

No, we don't sell them, but we do use them in our motor builds. The stock gasket has proven to work reliably time and time again, why change a good thing?
You never spoke to me on the phone. You are entitled to your own opinions but fact is that the oem headgasket works great and there is no need to change it.

John, it is a race head gasket. The factory gasket is a multi-layer steel (MLS) gasket, which is what Cometic sells. When we do head gaskets on 1.6 motors, we use Cometic gaskets since the factory 1.6 gasket is not an MLS unit, but Mazda used an MLS gasket from the factory on the 1.8s that is every bit as good as the Cometic gasket we use in the 1.6 motors.

On the 1.6, I would recommend a Cometic gasket, and we will gladly sell you a Cometic gasket for your 1.8 at twice the price of a factory HG, but there is absolutely no benefit.

Bmi...
 

That's cute hustler. Jersey shore is on. Make sure your tivo is recording it! BMI was used about 50 years ago. It was based on dead peoples body weight and height for insurance premium purposes.

None of this changes the fact that trackspeed was very rude when I called to order some parts. I've got more money into my car than you and your Churbo setup. If you want to say anything more to me, I'll give you my address and you can come for a visit punk.

Come at me.

We're all really concerned about how much money you've spent on your car. My churbo, budget build is reliable.

How about you come over to my penthouse apartment and we both take turns floating in the infinity pool (I'll have to unload the super-models) and we'll measure displacement. The loser severs his penis.

Street fighting and unprovoked assault is not really my thing these days. See, I socially evolved through genetic diversity; I've learned that people like you are dumb enough to hang yourself and show us your ass. Unfortunately generations of imbreeding left you without intellectual faculties to maintain a respectable decorum on internet forums, the last thing I want is to risk parking my Vanquish in your trailer park so your goon Komrades compromise my chariot of success and fortuity. When it comes to sparring, I keep it in the Muay Thai studio, with formidable oponents.

I don't get it. Was TSE rude? Do you advise the people you call of your sensitivities? If they don't know you're a hyper-sensitive child, then how can you blame them for this? Next time you call anyone, make sure to let them know that everyone owes you something, mayble they'll give you things for free through a sponsorship of some sort.

That really doesn't sound like us - would you be willing to call me in the next hour or so? I'd geniunely like to get your feedback on how your experience with us could have been better.

I can PM you my cell phone number.

The daddy issues you have are too much to get into on this forum. I tracked your IP address. Thanks for signing me up for all those websites. I have some friends near you who will be paying you a visit mr infinity pool.

Have fun getting through security. Seriously, bring an army because there is litterally a small army securing this place.

I mean Hustler you might want to back off some. You remember what happened last time with Chucky-Z. :giggle::giggle:

One minute he's talking whit, the next he's in prison, lol. Who's next? Bro, come at me.

Thought so - he had us mixed up with another company. Honest mistake. :makeout:

Thanks for taking the time to chat today, John. If we can help you out in the future, just let us know.

thank you for the head gasket info. does mazda sell stock HG's for motors that are .20, .40, .60 over? i have a stock 99-00 on in my room right now, but i plan to get .40 over pistons... soooo does that mean i can't use it?

backtraced!

visual basic gui?

Stock HG will do .040 over with no issue. FM says it will do .060 over with careful alignment.

please tell me he confused yall for Bell Engineering. I want to lulz.

LOL. If we're ever confused with Bell, we're doing something wrong :giggle:

THANK YOU. that means i have a HG and an exhaust gasket that is no longer useless! :idea:

is it listed on their site somewhere?
:bowrofl:

Class act!
 

I just wanted to thank you for your time today. Sorry to confuse you with that other un-named company, but I appreciate the email. It's just a shame that there are little kids on this site who ruin it for everyone else. I'll be stopping by your site soon to pick up more goodies for my project.

I also found this link that may be of some help from our conversation:
http://www.lakewood-industries.com/
They make a miata bell housing to fit that TKO-500/600. 600+ft/lb of TQ...

Good, I'd like to redact my e-thuggery. TSE and I go way back. There was a time when my Churbo wasn't working right and I was at my wit's end alone, and in the cold. Then, TSE was there for me, like Jerry Sandusky in the night. I'll never forget what you did for me:

IF U WERE KILLED TOMORROW, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR FUNERAL CUZ ID B N JAIL 4 KILLIN DA PERSON THAT KILLED U!
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You asshole, I know what you guys are up to. Remember me.

do want, put prob cant afford. ill find a used one ;)

thanks for the info!



BAD BOIS 4 LYFE

<3 that movie

Consequences will never be the same.

Nice redemption there. Though way overpriced ($630), this is a hell of part.

TK0-600 + 949 twin disc = more trans then a BP should ever break.

http://store.prestoliteperformance.c...ata-muncie.htm

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1322008150

If anyone can figure out how to take the shudder out of a lightened flywheel, let me know. I'm thinking of just wrapping the lower part of my shifter with some dynamat or hushmat. Only 4th gear makes that annoying noise under no gas and disappears when you touch the gas. The $650 for the bell housing is worth a savings of a few thousand dollars when compared to a full race tranny modified to fit a miata. I'll gladly pay that $650 and an American dukes-of-hazard tranny and take a vacation with the left over cash.

Also, quick note on engine build... My starter just went and I found a 2000-2002 Protege starter fits perfect and sounds way better than the miata. It's twice as beefy. None of the matching parts sites mention that part to fit. We just took a guess from the bolt pattern matching.

A TKO is not cheap, but it's probably cheaper than a tow vehicle and a trailer for us who drive to and from the track.

Most of the guys here are weight weenies - we use the NB starter which is ~6lbs lighter than the NA starter.

So do na8 and nb1 starters interchange? I know the 6 spd ones line up using 2/3 bolt holes...

I checked here thinking id find my answer. Guess not.
http://www.miata.net/garage/compatibility.html

If you're fine with 2/3 starter bolts, all the 94-05 starters line up just fine. The 1.6 starter works too, but you don't get to use the support bracket.

LOL "kinetic" like it hold in the kinetic energy more better?:noob:

http://www.cometic.com/

This thread has been ruthlessly hijacked :) Let's get back to helping our comrade experience built-motor love.

I would also suggest shopping around and seeing if you can get a mazdaspeed motorsports account as they have a fairly comprehensive set of oem parts at reasonable prices and the part diagrams are very helpful.

Just use a relay firm/racer instead.

Dammit!! I'm currently between future ex-mrs_hydes and was hoping this would be a good option...

Meanwhile...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1324944548

Just arrived, well, hand delivered today...

Please note the lovely 650cc injector sitting in the crank bore of one of the rods there, too.

Also, not pictured are a complete set of ARP studs (head and main), and rings (JE JG1004-3307) for the pistons..

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1324944692

Hakan-

Those are some good looking injectors ;)

-Sam

Head porting...

Useful, with concrete results, or exercise in futility on a boosted engine using stock intake manifold?

Please feel free to enlighten me.

you're missing a ring filer
edit: dammit old thread