Expensive Intercooler paint worth it?
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I'm looking for the sleeper look, so I have decided to paint my intercooler black.
So, do I need fancy radiator paint, or just any old sh*tty flat black paint? See here: Eastwood Radiator Black Paint "Standard engine paints are too thick for radiator use because they can interfere with heat transfer and block air flow between the cooling fins. Also, standard paint tends to flake off radiator tanks. Radiator Black helps solve this problem. Durable Enamel formulation resists temperatures up to 250ºF, gas and chipping. One can covers 6 square feet (most radiators require 2 cans). " At $14.99 per can + shipping, this seems like an expensive proposition ($20+!!!). Marketing hype, or engineering marvel? So miataturbo masses - what say you? Shut up and buy the expensive stuff, or still Shut up and slap some Walmart paint on it? Or just Shut up? P.S. - How to prep intercooler before painting? Just wipe it with lacquer thinner, or will I need to hit it with some scuff pads too? P.P.S. I was feeling remiss in not including a photo of anything, so here's something funny and vaguely related to the thread title: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374028340 |
quick, delete this thread before Brain goes postal on you
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to answer your question though: no, its not worth it.
use a thin coat of whatever paint you'd have to literally submerge the ic in paint for it to significantly affect its heat exchanging properties |
Use krylon paint and dont look back.
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You will need to have a nice scuffed surface for it to stick. I glass beaded my intercooler and charge pipes before spraying them with rattle can textured black spray paint.
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I always use self etching primer on aluminum.
Didn't we have a thread on this last year? |
Is this thread real life?
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Guys if I paint my engine block black, will the paint hold too much heat in and cause my engine to overheat?
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
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Guys if I paint my engine block black, will the paint hold too much heat in and cause my engine to overheat?
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Guys we are talking "Expensive" Intercooler paint. Not that cheap shit.
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 1032946)
Guys we are talking "Expensive" Intercooler paint. Not that cheap shit.
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 1032946)
Guys we are talking "Expensive" Intercooler paint. Not that cheap shit.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1032955)
Since gold has better thermal conductive properties than aluminum, I'm going to paint my IC gold.
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How do you expect an IC to work without painting it?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1032959)
How do you expect an IC to work without painting it?
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flat black any old paint. gold is actually very bad at radiating heat, mister brain.
Shiny is worse than flat. light is worse than dark. |
Well are we talking ACTUAL gold, or gold colored.
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Fools. All of you are damned fools.
Any heat which escapes from the intercooler gets blown straight back into the engine compartment. We all know that nothing is more important than keeping under-hood temps down. Thus, the intercooler should be insulated in order to prevent it from raising the ambient temp of everything around it. |
I think this leads back to hood risers. THE RICERS WERE ON TO SOMETHING!
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Yup.
For that matter, the radiator isn't helping matters any... |
In for Hypers holy-grail radiator delete kit.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 1033242)
flat black any old paint. gold is actually very bad at radiating heat, mister brain.
Shiny is worse than flat. light is worse than dark. ...I think you know where I'm going with this. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1033426)
okay then, Mr. Science, it takes 0.902 Joules of heat to raise the temperature of 1 gram of Aluminum 1°C. It was 203 Joules of heat to raise ice the same...
...I think you know where I'm going with this. BRILLIANT! |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1033426)
okay then, Mr. Science, it takes 0.902 Joules of heat to raise the temperature of 1 gram of Aluminum 1°C. It was 203 Joules of heat to raise ice the same...
...I think you know where I'm going with this. NOW WHO IS THE SUCKER |
Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 1033248)
Well are we talking ACTUAL gold, or gold colored.
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No, intercoolers made out of ice, duh.
Water is nearly free, just bring a couple to the track with you in a cooler next to your race tires. |
I prefer the old tried and true window A/C unit mounted to front of car. Sleeper? No. Effective? Yes.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 1033490)
What if the aluminum is starting at a temperature of 1,221°F?
NOW WHO IS THE SUCKER well, it would still take .902 Joules to raise 1 gram of aluminum to 1222.8°F. But it would be making its way through your block at that point...so mute point. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1033570)
well, it would still take .902 Joules to raise 1 gram of aluminum to 1222.8°F. But it would be making its way through your block at that point...so mute point.
Typically, the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of a material is linear, right until you get to a phase-change point. Then, a large amount of energy is required to actually make it change from one phase to another (eg: melting), and yet no temperature change is observed during this transition. (Enthalpy of Fusion.) |
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listen bro. i dont need your shit.
let's just go back to gold ICs. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374169054 http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-m...-all-gold.html |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1033584)
Are you sure?
Typically, the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of a material is linear, right until you get to a phase-change point. Then, a large amount of energy is required to actually make it change from one phase to another (eg: melting), and yet no temperature change is observed during this transition. (Enthalpy of Fusion.) |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 1033591)
unlike the layman brain of brain.
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Google turned this up in a boat forum for preparing bare aluminum for paint:
The chemistry behind using zinc chromate is mildly interesting. Look it up if that's your thing. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 1033491)
honey, any gold you gettin from your man aint gonna be actual and factual.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1033426)
okay then, Mr. Science, it takes 0.902 Joules of heat to raise the temperature of 1 gram of Aluminum 1°C. It was 203 Joules of heat to raise ice the same...
...I think you know where I'm going with this.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1033570)
well, it would still take .902 Joules to raise 1 gram of aluminum to 1222.8°F. But it would be making its way through your block at that point...so mute point.
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