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Dot3 06-11-2013 02:04 PM

Gtx2860r with quick spool
 
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Has anyone tried to use this twin scroll housing?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1370973891

GT28RS/2871R/GTX28 0.82 A/R T3 DIVIDED Turbine Housing : atpturbo.com

How would this setup run with a t3 quick spool valve? Did I miss a thread talking about this?

Savington 06-11-2013 02:19 PM

IMO, that's too much A/R for that turbo on our engines.

Der_Idiot 06-14-2013 11:57 AM

Can you get a smaller A/R twinscroll housing for it though? I have only seen the EFRs .92 and the Garretts .82 - I'd like to see something like .70 A/R to increase flow but not sacrifice spool. 350hp with a 3k spool.. Am I dreaming the impossible? Probably. Has anyone aftermarket tried this?

Leafy 06-14-2013 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1021806)
350hp with a 3k spool.. Am I dreaming the impossible? Probably. Has anyone aftermarket tried this?

Not impossible, EFR6758 or 6258.

Savington 06-14-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1021819)
Not impossible, EFR6758 or 6258.

+1. A stroker and a 6758 would give you those power numbers and big torque at 3k too.

Leafy 06-14-2013 03:45 PM

I'm not sure the stroker is entirely necessary to have a power band that starts at 3k with a small EFR.

Savington 06-14-2013 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1021868)
I'm not sure the stroker is entirely necessary to have a power band that starts at 3k with a small EFR.

Soviet's 6758 was seeing peak torque at ~3900rpm. If you really want to make big torque at 3k, you'll want the stroker. Whether or not those few hundred RPM of powerband is worth the extra $4k+ is up to you, though.

18psi 06-14-2013 04:17 PM

If you're seeing over 200wtq before 3k you are making serious torque.
His 6258 was seeing well over that well before 3k. I'd say that is serious torque.
Spend the 4k on hookers and blow :party:

Leafy 06-14-2013 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1021873)
If you're seeing over 200wtq before 3k you are making serious torque.

Not if you're Stubbs. 400 ftlbs minimum.

Der_Idiot 06-14-2013 04:28 PM

I still wish BorgWarner had gone through with a twinscroll housing for the 6758. Or maybe an aftermarket vendor..

Leafy 06-14-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1021877)
I still wish BorgWarner had gone through with a twinscroll housing for the 6758. Or maybe an aftermarket vendor..

Its coming. Its will totally be an option on the 7163, that is for certain. Which means they'll have the correct size for the 6758.

Impuls 06-14-2013 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1021881)
Its coming. Its will totally be an option on the 7163, that is for certain. Which means they'll have the correct size for the 6758.

I've been planning on running the 7163 TS with quick spool for awhile now. Fitment is the only issue. QSVs are pretty thick.

ctdrftna 06-14-2013 05:31 PM

WTF why didnt anyone mention quick spool valves to me.

Leafy 06-14-2013 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 1021899)
WTF why didnt anyone mention quick spool valves to me.

I dont think anyone knew you had a twin scroll.

ctdrftna 06-14-2013 05:35 PM

i dont, but all you need is a twin scroll housing and a single scroll manifold. ATP makes twin scroll housings for 3071R. Oh well i got N20 coming

Der_Idiot 06-14-2013 05:36 PM

Fae had one too, you know.

thenuge26 06-14-2013 05:40 PM

FWIW qsv's don't work in a track car from what I've heard, they can't take the punishment. Whether you would be beating on it long enough for that to matter I don't know...

Impuls 06-14-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1021905)
FWIW qsv's don't work in a track car from what I've heard, they can't take the punishment. Whether you would be beating on it long enough for that to matter I don't know...

Very true words, some claim they can. Not worth the risk though. But for street driving and occasional events they are fine.
Though I have to look into how/why they fail, if vibration = shit for us.

Der_Idiot 06-14-2013 05:56 PM

Look back in faeflora's build thread - the company that made his made a more durable model that should handle more punishment than the previous revisions. Not sure if it's holding up for him though..

Impuls 06-14-2013 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1021909)
Look back in faeflora's build thread - the company that made his made a more durable model that should handle more punishment than the previous revisions. Not sure if it's holding up for him though..

It should be, it never runs :P


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