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mad0953 09-07-2018 02:50 PM

Help!!!! FM or BEGI
 
CAI from BEGI or FM for my 2004 MSM? Which one and why? On the fence. Thanks.

concealer404 09-07-2018 02:54 PM

BEGI is no longer, so that probably makes that decision easy.

18psi 09-07-2018 02:54 PM

the chances of
1) receiving what you ordered
2) on time
3) with proper fitment
4) and complete

from begi are 1%. so......

Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1500583)
BEGI is no longer, so that probably makes that decision easy.

I'd say rest in peace but they've been resting in peace for over 10 years now. probably why nothing ever got done ;)

mad0953 09-07-2018 03:00 PM

thanks guys, I wonder why their website is still up?

concealer404 09-07-2018 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by mad0953 (Post 1500588)
thanks guys, I wonder why their website is still up?

It's not, as far as i know?

mad0953 09-07-2018 03:04 PM

I am so dumb, just hit the dreaded 65 and my brain is mush. this is the site I looked at. Sorry. https://www.belltuning.com/

18psi 09-07-2018 03:06 PM

don't worry. that site is mush too

boileralum 09-07-2018 03:14 PM

Speaking of mush, I hear Cuervo and oatmeal makes a fine start to the day.

sixshooter 09-07-2018 04:10 PM

https://www.sloshspot.com/wp-content...ty-Old-Man.jpg

Savington 09-07-2018 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 1500600)
Speaking of mush, I hear Cuervo and oatmeal makes a fine start to the day.

I'll have to take one's word for it, but if it's true, that certainly explains a lot.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-07-2018 05:16 PM

My vote is for dont bother, or maybe DIY.

18psi 09-07-2018 05:28 PM

I personally preferred AEM over both of the above.

brainzata 09-07-2018 05:34 PM

I have a MSM and originally bought the AEM short ram, it's just a basic intake, but good. I mainly bought it because Carb Legal. Kept the sticker, sold the intake in order to buy BEGI/Bell tuning as it is the best intake availabe for the MSM. Now it took a really long time, but whatever, just plan for that. Their work is professional, they are friendly and I really have no complaints as they have done their best for a small business. I run a small business of my own and know how it is. I had them custom make my intake as I am running a BNR 16g, and they did so no problem and it looks and fits perfectly. There is alot of complaining about but I feel it has been exaggerated over the years due to word of mouth. In my experience, which I have made about 6 purhchases, I rate them well. I have even boughten a couple small parts to use in custom mods on customers generators and they made it happen for me instantly. Can't complain.

But for an intake for the msm, depends what you want, how much you want to invest. I think the FM kit is a waste of money, but looks cool. AEM is the cheapest, lightest and replaces ALL oem parts on the turbo side, where as FM and BEGI reuse the stock turbo inlet hose. The Aem comes with a smoother turbo inlet hose, legal in CA and makes power, and is located in the right area like BEGI rather then the FM kit, which is longer than the other two options. The FM does come with a new Throttle body inlet, but I think it looks horrible and don't want a BOV nor in that location. The BEGI TBIT has a better apeal, they will customize it for a few extra bucks, like I requested, and it allows a better flow path due to angle, over the FM, as far as I can tell from pictures and looking at mine in person.


Just my 2 cents

borka 09-08-2018 12:29 AM

Most power gains for msm come from downpipe, exhaust. Then intake.

best mod for MSM is a megasquirt. Stock ecu is horrid.

Lokiel 09-08-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1500610)

Geez, Arnie's really let himself go...

L337TurboZ 09-09-2018 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Lokiel (Post 1500718)
Geez, Arnie's really let himself go...

It was a tumah

boileralum 09-09-2018 11:00 AM

He’ll be back

Mudflap 09-11-2018 03:09 PM

Just buy mine. I've got the $350 MSM cold air intake and I also have the $80 "Air box for turbo kit, NB chassis" kit. Both are good to go.

Say, $250 for the MSM and $50 for the other. Which one do you need?

Ray

brainzata 09-14-2018 09:23 PM

Which one could he possibly need :laugh:...maybe the actual intake choice?

rtp 10-09-2018 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1500621)
I personally preferred AEM over both of the above.

Why?

As a related Q, I'm not seeing anyone selling just an msm/nb throttle body inlet pipe. Bell might but PO said he'd tried3x to get one that fit properly, which mirrors my own experiences from a decade ago. Is they a good source for a working/fits right TBI pipe?


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