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Teo 03-11-2017 12:16 PM

Help me! Oil feed (sandwich plate)
 
I'm going turbo and i bought this sandwich plate https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1502b009bf.jpg

So ... this will be the layout https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4961805725.jpg

If i put an oil restrictor on the line ( because i have a ball bearing turbo IHI VJ14 ) Did that affect engine lubrication ? ... because it actually stops all the flow from the filter to the engine.... I'm confused...
Help me... is this a good oil feed layout ? Dosen't the restrictor and the turbo itself affect oil flow to the engine ? How should i do this ?
Give me some advices please ...

bahurd 03-11-2017 12:51 PM

This has a whole bunch of fail in it.

Teo 03-11-2017 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1398079)
This has a whole bunch of fail in it.

Can you be more specific ?

Savington 03-11-2017 02:02 PM

As drawn, your setup will blow up your engine in roughly 90 seconds.

You need this: http://www.trackspeedengineering.com...d-adapter.html

Teo 03-11-2017 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1398087)
As drawn, your setup will blow up your engine in roughly 90 seconds.

You need this: Trackspeed Oil Feed Adapter

Why ? because it restricts the flow? As I wrote above?
How i should do it ?

dleavitt 03-11-2017 02:04 PM

Pre-heating the oil going into the engine is bad, m'kay?

Teo 03-11-2017 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by dleavitt (Post 1398089)
Pre-heating the oil going into the engine is bad, m'kay?

There are a lot of guys using sandwich plates for turbo... how should i do it ?

dleavitt 03-11-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Teo (Post 1398091)
There are a lot of guys using sandwich plates for turbo... how should i do it ?

Using the adapter Savington so nicely linked for you? Drain then goes straight to the oil pan.

Teo 03-11-2017 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by dleavitt (Post 1398092)
Using the adapter Savington so nicely linked for you? Drain then goes straight to the oil pan.

I don't understand what are you trying to say....
With this adapter il comes from the pump... pass trough adapter... then oil filter... then the engine, and finally back to oil pan...
Tell me how i should use this adapter.... because i know a lot use it...

Teo 03-11-2017 02:20 PM

Would this be better? https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c6707053ab.jpg
Putting turbo lines outside main circuit but still linked to ...

Savington 03-11-2017 02:20 PM

No. Oil comes from the pump, passes through the filter, and goes to the adapter. SOME of the oil then goes to the turbo, and drains directly from the turbo into the pan. The rest of the oil feeds the engine as normal.

Fair warning: This is an extremely basic concept. If you're struggling here, you will likely not get to the end of your project successfully without a substantial amount of additional research on your own.

dleavitt 03-11-2017 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Teo (Post 1398095)
I don't understand what are you trying to say....
With this adapter il comes from the pump... pass trough adapter... then oil filter... then the engine, and finally back to oil pan...
Tell me how i should use this adapter.... because i know a lot use it...

Okay, how to use the adapter you posted:

1). Take adapter.
2). Throw it in the trash.
3). Buy Trackspeed adapter.
4). Turbo your Miata properly.
5). Profit.

dleavitt 03-11-2017 02:23 PM

Also, if you want to run an oil cooler you will need a thermostatic sandwich plate. Otherwise your oil will never warm up.

Teo 03-11-2017 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1398097)
No. Oil comes from the pump, passes through the filter, and goes to the adapter. SOME of the oil then goes to the turbo, and drains directly from the turbo into the pan. The rest of the oil feeds the engine as normal.

Fair warning: This is an extremely basic concept. If you're struggling here, you will likely not get to the end of your project successfully without a substantial amount of additional research on your own.

This is how you say i should do it ?

Teo 03-11-2017 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1398097)
No. Oil comes from the pump, passes through the filter, and goes to the adapter. SOME of the oil then goes to the turbo, and drains directly from the turbo into the pan. The rest of the oil feeds the engine as normal.

Fair warning: This is an extremely basic concept. If you're struggling here, you will likely not get to the end of your project successfully without a substantial amount of additional research on your own.

This is how you say i should do it ? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0e5391fa84.jpg
I should close the circuit on the adapter ( red line - right ) so the main oil line goes directly to the engine....( or better i could place a cooler there ) and get the oil feed from the side then return to oil pan....
But that means i should drill into the oil pan.. right ?

and only in discussion... the oil first passes the adapter .. before the filter.. because is comming from the pump on the exterior side... where the adapter is... and then return from filter trough center where adapter have just a hole so the oil can pass...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...33ec45f2fd.gif

Anyway.... let's conclude.... is that the good way to do it .. .like i sketch it this time ?

18psi 03-11-2017 03:29 PM

Is there any particular reason why you choose to do it the stupid and bad way and not like everyone else here ?

The "traditional" way could not possibly be any easier. Why use a sandwich adapter?

Teo 03-11-2017 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1398118)
Is there any particular reason why you choose to do it the stupid and bad way and not like everyone else here ?

The "traditional" way could not possibly be any easier. Why use a sandwich adapter?

Wich is the traditional way ? ... and why is so bad ?

dleavitt 03-11-2017 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Teo (Post 1398119)
Wich is the traditional way ? ... and why is so bad ?

I'm calling it: trolling.

The other option is that it is too stupid to live.

Savington 03-11-2017 04:17 PM

This is a great reminder of why we don't do warm welcomes here

Teo 03-11-2017 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Teo (Post 1398119)
Wich is the traditional way ? ... and why is so bad ?


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1398122)
This is a great reminder of why we don't do warm welcomes here

You should help entry level guys instead of demoralize them...


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