how come mazda motors dont make "good" power?
09-16-2010, 09:42 PM
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To the OP, have you ever driven or rode in a 300 whp Miata?
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09-16-2010, 11:07 PM
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Sure, the BPs just aren't great engines. The Honda B series have significantly better head design for high speed operation. However, at the risk of all sorts of fury, have you ever seen an integra with corvette LS3? There's 430hp/426tq in a 2500lb car.
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09-16-2010, 11:16 PM
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^ No but i've seen a 800 hp del sol that is around 2000 pounds.
To the OP, I just think that the technology isn't there yet for us, or will ever be. Honda community has several huge shops making CAD designed intake manifolds, several companies making cams (they're like 50 choices in cams for a B-series) so much more R&D then we have...
To the OP, I just think that the technology isn't there yet for us, or will ever be. Honda community has several huge shops making CAD designed intake manifolds, several companies making cams (they're like 50 choices in cams for a B-series) so much more R&D then we have...
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09-16-2010, 11:59 PM
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No, I wouldn't say that.
D-series have made 700 whp on pump gas and from the factory they redline at like 7000 RPM, and noted they're SOHC 1.6
It's all about engineering and R&D like I said before, the money in their market is so much higher than ours making for a lot more options and better parts.
D-series have made 700 whp on pump gas and from the factory they redline at like 7000 RPM, and noted they're SOHC 1.6
It's all about engineering and R&D like I said before, the money in their market is so much higher than ours making for a lot more options and better parts.
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09-17-2010, 12:15 AM
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Bisimoto is one hell of an engineer.
But yah, I said that earlier. There are lots of people making 400+ hp on dirt cheap D series builds. Cast pistons from the suzuki vitara with stock length H-beam rods creats like 7.5:1 compression ratio. Peaople are running 20-25 psi on pump gas and making 400 plus. A few drag racers have gone into the 600 hjp range with STOCK CAST PISTONS FROM A SUZUKI! lol
not to mention the fact that itrs a SOHC 1.6
Everybody thinks the D series is shitty, when in fact its really a better engine for turbo than a B imo, kinda like the BP, it needs rods and a cam to make power.
But yah, I said that earlier. There are lots of people making 400+ hp on dirt cheap D series builds. Cast pistons from the suzuki vitara with stock length H-beam rods creats like 7.5:1 compression ratio. Peaople are running 20-25 psi on pump gas and making 400 plus. A few drag racers have gone into the 600 hjp range with STOCK CAST PISTONS FROM A SUZUKI! lol
not to mention the fact that itrs a SOHC 1.6
Everybody thinks the D series is shitty, when in fact its really a better engine for turbo than a B imo, kinda like the BP, it needs rods and a cam to make power.
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09-17-2010, 12:22 AM
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No, I wouldn't say that.
D-series have made 700 whp on pump gas and from the factory they redline at like 7000 RPM, and noted they're SOHC 1.6
It's all about engineering and R&D like I said before, the money in their market is so much higher than ours making for a lot more options and better parts.
D-series have made 700 whp on pump gas and from the factory they redline at like 7000 RPM, and noted they're SOHC 1.6
It's all about engineering and R&D like I said before, the money in their market is so much higher than ours making for a lot more options and better parts.
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09-17-2010, 12:32 AM
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This is one of the worst threads I've read in my life, worse than the time I caught HIV from your mothers. With that said, nothing pisses me off more than the damn H2 and H1 cars steam-rolling me on the straights.
I'd love to see a Honda motor swapped into a Miata.
I'd love to see a Honda motor swapped into a Miata.
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