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Rushin 09-24-2009 02:46 PM

How do my Spark Plugs look?
 
Pulled the plugs from my miata and not really sure how bad they look. The number one cylinder plug looks a little crusty, the rest look pretty good.

Here are pics of number 1 and number 2 plugs.

Number 1
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_uzUzVzeT3VA/Sr...0/IMG_0351.JPG

Number 1
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_uzUzVzeT3VA/Sr...0/IMG_0352.JPG

Number 2
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_uzUzVzeT3VA/Sr...0/IMG_0353.JPG

Number 2
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_uzUzVzeT3VA/Sr...0/IMG_0353.JPG

I am thinking number one for sure looks a bit too lean. What you guys think?

Afrs are 15.5 cruising, sometimes i would get as low as 12.3 when cruising or slowly acceleration in 2 and 3rd. And sometimes i get as high as 17.5 when just about getting very slowly into boost. I still cant figure out why this is happening. Wot is consistent 11.5-10.8.

fahrvergnugen 09-24-2009 07:29 PM

Dirty injector?

Rushin 09-24-2009 07:31 PM

Really? Injectors are pretty much brand new 600cc flow tested.

fahrvergnugen 09-24-2009 07:35 PM

If one is lean, then there must be too much air and not enough fuel. Is there any discussion about the OE intake feeding more air to cylinder #1?

It does look lean to me; what if you swap the injector with #2 and see if the condition moves with it? If it does, it has to be the injector. If it does not, perhaps my suggestion on the manifold might be the problem?

Rushin 09-24-2009 07:39 PM

I will swap the injectors and see if it moves to second cylinder. Btw. Am running e85, so that might cause the sparks to look like I am running a bit lean.

fahrvergnugen 09-24-2009 07:50 PM

I'll be interested with what you find; I'm only supposing that is the cause, I can't imagine another.

cueball1 09-24-2009 08:30 PM

17.5 moving into boost sounds bad to me. What's the MS programming fix for lean tip in again? I know it's covered in the manual.

I had irregular AFR's showing up, not under your conditions, that turned out to be a bad FPR.

Rushin 09-24-2009 08:49 PM

Well, Its not just when I am getting into boost but when I am driving with no boost at high rpm.

triple88a 09-29-2009 12:23 AM

i dont know how mss maps are however you cant up the fuel a bit when at the lower load?

Rushin 09-29-2009 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 461058)
i dont know how mss maps are however you cant up the fuel a bit when at the lower load?

I did that and the car feel much better now. Have not checked the plugs yet.

triple88a 09-29-2009 12:27 AM

just curious how long have you been running it at 17.5? no problems?

magnamx-5 09-29-2009 12:29 AM

lol newb use your LC1 more

Rushin 09-29-2009 12:33 AM

I guess you guys really misunderstood when i meant i run it at 17.5. Lets say i am driving in 3rd gear with vacuum at 10 and start to accelerate very very smoothly with just lightly pressing on the gas. Right when the boost gauge hits about .5PSI my afrs go from 15 to 17.5 and the car starts to lurch a little back and worth, i can keep it like this for a very short time, if i keep accelerating and boost goes to 1psi my afrs go to 12 and if i floor it it does to 11.2 or so. If i am in second and floor the car all the way to 7500 my afrs are instant 10.8-11.5. This is something like a part throttle deal.

magnamx-5 09-29-2009 12:44 AM

then richen the fuel in those cells rushin you need more fuel on your boost tip in. So richen up everything 14 kpa below boost a few points and this should help you quite abit. Then tune your cruise cells to 14.5-15-1 for optimal economy.

Rushin 09-29-2009 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 461077)
then richen the fuel in those cells rushin you need more fuel on your boost tip in. So richen up everything 14 kpa below boost a few points and this should help you quite abit. Then tune your cruise cells to 14.5-15-1 for optimal economy.

thats exactly what i did. I do it a little bit at a time. I tuned my cruise to 14.5-15.5.


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