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Old 01-18-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fastivab6tg25mr
careful what you wish for... ive been in a miata that could... most terrifying car ive ever been in... i also towed it home after the tires grabbed doing a 6th gear burnout and shattered the 6 speed.
Wow. DETAILS ON THE CAR PLEASE!!!!!
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Did the Hydra folks fix how it outputs duty cycle with the newer versions? If not, the 60% that you're seeing isn't really 60%.
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Wow. DETAILS ON THE CAR PLEASE!!!!!
This is the same car I told you about on different occasions. Our buddy Seans car. Justin (fastivab5) is also a local and we all terrorize the streets together

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Originally Posted by JayL
Did the Hydra folks fix how it outputs duty cycle with the newer versions? If not, the 60% that you're seeing isn't really 60%.
No. It is still a "feature" that 100% duty in hydra is actualy 80% in reality.
As of v2.6. Not sure about v2.7.


Btw public thanks to Jay again for all his advice on my build.
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
All i want to do is spin the wheels in 6th. Is that too much to ask?
185 all seasons... Spinning at 60+ really isn't that fun though.
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so if 100 is 80 then your 60 is really 40.

Why are you being a bitch again?
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
so if 100 is 80 then your 60 is really 40.

Why are you being a bitch again?
if 100 is 80 and 0 is 0 then 60 would be 48.
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So wait, 0 is not -20?
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Omfg stop it guys. I actually have 70pct readout in hydra. I was doing the math for you brainsdead phags
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Originally Posted by 18psi
So wait, 0 is not -20?
Now why the hell would they do that?

Originally Posted by Faeflora
Omfg stop it guys. I actually have 70pct readout in hydra. I was doing the math for you brainsdead phags
Fine. No soup for you.
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FailFlora the solution to your fueling issue is just to hook up 4 bosch fuel pumps and have each one just directly feed into injector port. I think you are way beyond needing injectors.
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report back when its at 150%
til then, don't be a bitch
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Originally Posted by shuiend
FailFlora the solution to your fueling issue is just to hook up 4 bosch fuel pumps and have each one just directly feed into injector port. I think you are way beyond needing injectors.
20 gallons per mile

like an bawsss
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Originally Posted by 18psi
20 gallons per mile

like an bawsss
And god damn, that mile doesn't take long.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
This is the same car I told you about on different occasions. Our buddy Seans car. Justin (fastivab5) is also a local and we all terrorize the streets together
I did a freeway pull against Sean's old black miata on my cbr last summer and he was looking at me doing 80-90ish on the freeway when his tires broke traction. He's been posting on Facebook about high comp 12:1ish and a huge turbo for his new miata.
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Originally Posted by bikersam717
I did a freeway pull against Sean's old black miata on my cbr last summer and he was looking at me doing 80-90ish on the freeway when his tires broke traction. He's been posting on Facebook about high comp 12:1ish and a huge turbo for his new miata.
Please make him post here.

And E85 is cheating. :jealous:
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He does.
Has like 5 posts
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Originally Posted by 18psi
report back when its at 150%
til then, don't be a bitch
im still between 98% and 105% duty cycle with my 680's when its cold...
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As I've said before, those 680's of yours were some of the worst injectors I've ever worked with.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I highly doubt the 700 figure you guys keep throwing around.


ID1000s at ~87% duty cycle and 72.5psi base pressure flow 1,000cc/min each. Click for proof.

4000cc/min is 386.4lb/hr of gasoline

BSFC = 0.55lb/hp-hr

386/0.55 = 701.82bhp



Their "ratings" are not exactly spot on and don't exactly apply to every car/setup.
Just my .02
Their ratings are posted in detail on their website at various voltages and pressures. I've never seen another injector company provide as much data/info as ID on their injectors. If you think their "ratings" aren't spot on, you've obviously never actually seen the data.
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