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Faeflora Jan 17, 2012 04:36 PM

How much Hp is my injector good for?
 
I have ID1000 with two bosch 044 pumps and an aeromotive regulator vac referenced and set to 70psi base.

How much crank hp should i get out of this systen?

I ask because i am at 60pct duty cycle with much less power than I anticipated. (25psi with my s366)

Boost Joose Jan 17, 2012 04:39 PM

Holy....I plan on running one 044 and hopefully squeezing atleast 400 out?? What power do you think you're at now? 500+?

18psi Jan 17, 2012 05:14 PM

I don't understand how you're running out of fuel.
I mean ID1k's @ like 90psi should support 500 from what I heard.

Boost Joose Jan 17, 2012 05:19 PM

http://www.injectordynamics.com/HPCalculator.html

With 90 psi it looks like just over 700

Faeflora Jan 17, 2012 05:20 PM

Yeah 18psi I prob am approaching 500crank at this level of boost with this turbo.

Faeflora Jan 17, 2012 05:21 PM

Yeah i used the calculators but the numbers are not translating to real world

ianferrell Jan 17, 2012 05:22 PM

are you running bigger than stock fuel line? 5/16th becomes an issue at some point, esp w/ 2 044s. Why 2 anyway? 4 x 1000cc should easily be fed by one of those right?

Boost Joose Jan 17, 2012 05:24 PM

and no e85 right?

richyvrlimited Jan 17, 2012 05:52 PM

Also it's a 2001+ so not manifold pressure referenced, i.e. you need larger than 'normal' injectors to hit the same power levels.

ianferrell Jan 17, 2012 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by richyvrlimited (Post 822081)
Also it's a 2001+ so not manifold pressure referenced, i.e. you need larger than 'normal' injectors to hit the same power levels.

Sounds like he's not running returnless.


aeromotive regulator vac referenced and set to 70psi base

18psi Jan 17, 2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 822053)
Yeah i used the calculators but the numbers are not translating to real world

For what its worth, ID1000's don't actually flow 1000cc or something to that effect.

This has been beaten to hell on the subaru forums, and the general consensous is they flow about 100-150cc less than pretty much all the other 1000cc injectors.


My ID1000's on the Forester right now are scaled to 860cc or something like that.
Read up on it, its not a myth.

I guess your only real solution is to step it up to 1600's or 2000's. Not sure anything else will really help if you're already running @ 90psi base

chpmnsws6 Jan 17, 2012 06:20 PM

Why are you worried with a 60% duty cycle? Hell, even my junk domestic svo 36's are at 80% or more at WOT.

hustler Jan 17, 2012 06:25 PM

Who runs 90 psi of fuel?

18psi Jan 17, 2012 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 822111)
Why are you worried with a 60% duty cycle? Hell, even my junk domestic svo 36's are at 80% or more at WOT.

He's at 25 psi or something.
He plans to go to 50 or some other ungodly pressure level.

18psi Jan 17, 2012 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 822116)
Who runs 90 psi of fuel?

Bunch of people.
Including your boy Andrew (though he may be at 70 dont really remember atm)

chpmnsws6 Jan 17, 2012 06:31 PM

At some point here real soon, won't he run into the cylinder heads glass wall, or will psi get around that? I see 50psi not going well, but it'll be fun to watch. Then again, if the 2.3t pinto guys can make 1200+ hp out of a 90hp engine designed in the 60's-70's with a blow thru carb, he should be able to at least hit half that with todays technology.... Right?

18psi Jan 17, 2012 06:52 PM

All I know is it will be fun to watch.
Min has enough money to not give a damn about petty things like engine blowing up.

lol

Faeflora Jan 17, 2012 08:05 PM

Yeah I have the factory fuel line and – six line one for each pump that go to each individual rail. Should be more than enough fuel line.

19psu i thought id was rated low, not high. Bleh thatight explain a lot.

Chpswmnfugfu i will run up to 90pct duty. Mebbe i will see where that puts me for hp

Faeflora Jan 17, 2012 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 822045)
I don't understand how you're running out of fuel.
I mean ID1k's @ like 90psi should support 500 from what I heard.

I want enough injector for mu turbo which means 800hp crank


So fif i run out of injector which brand should i get?

Id2000 is no go because fu $1000 for a set

chpmnsws6 Jan 17, 2012 08:26 PM

Why not sell ur tiny injectors and run some real injectors? Man up....


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