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cops ?????
I got a set of 94-95 Toyota Camry coils for free and I wanted to put them on my Miata but the only problem is they only have 2 pins?????? The numbers on the coil is 90919-02214 what would I need to make these work. My car is a 99 Miata with a link piggy back.
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From looking at this http://www.boostedmiata.com/FAQ/cops..._explained.jpg
This
http://www.miata.net/garage/ECU_Pin-Out.png
This
Ignition Coil Swap
And this
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t4756-42/
I think it is possible to run the coils I have I just need to wire in the old 1.6 Miata igniter let me know what you all think of this im going to make a wire diagram in a few mins
This
http://www.miata.net/garage/ECU_Pin-Out.png
This
Ignition Coil Swap
And this
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t4756-42/
I think it is possible to run the coils I have I just need to wire in the old 1.6 Miata igniter let me know what you all think of this im going to make a wire diagram in a few mins
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Yup. These are just plain ole' coils, with no igniter circuitry. You'll need to wire 'em in just like 1.6 coils. You'll also need to scope the primary with an oscilloscope to determine the optimal dwell period for them.
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Yeah, you can probably use the stock igniter, but you'll still need an oscilloscope with a DC current probe if you want to determine the optimum dwell period for them in that configuration.
An alternative would be to build your own igniter, using VB921s as per The Manual. If you do this, I'd use four VB921s and four 330 ohm resistors, with two each wired to SparkA and SparkB. That way, even though you're wasted spark, each coil gets its own driver and the primaries will charge faster. You could probably just run their recommended 3.5ms dwell and SparkOut = Inverted.
I can draw you a schematic if you need one.
An alternative would be to build your own igniter, using VB921s as per The Manual. If you do this, I'd use four VB921s and four 330 ohm resistors, with two each wired to SparkA and SparkB. That way, even though you're wasted spark, each coil gets its own driver and the primaries will charge faster. You could probably just run their recommended 3.5ms dwell and SparkOut = Inverted.
I can draw you a schematic if you need one.
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Ah, stock ECU. Missed that. (Can you tell I'm a MegaSquirt bigot? )
Ok, forget what I said about building a VB921 circuit. Your plan with the 1.6 igniter is the easiest approach.
The diagram you posted looks good to me. Ignore the tach wire altogether. In the 1.6, the igniter provides the tach signal, but in your '99, the tach signal runs from the ECU direct to the dash, and never goes anywhere near the actual ignition system. You can just leave those pins disconnected.
Ok, forget what I said about building a VB921 circuit. Your plan with the 1.6 igniter is the easiest approach.
The diagram you posted looks good to me. Ignore the tach wire altogether. In the 1.6, the igniter provides the tach signal, but in your '99, the tach signal runs from the ECU direct to the dash, and never goes anywhere near the actual ignition system. You can just leave those pins disconnected.
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thanks for the help yaa i wanted to run ms in my 90 when i had it but i got rid of that one and got my 99. would like to run the ms in the 99 but no pnp yet so ill stick to the link for now. i only plan on making 350whp wich is the limit i have been told for my ecu setup
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An alternative would be to build your own igniter, using VB921s as per The Manual. If you do this, I'd use four VB921s and four 330 ohm resistors, with two each wired to SparkA and SparkB. That way, even though you're wasted spark, each coil gets its own driver and the primaries will charge faster. You could probably just run their recommended 3.5ms dwell and SparkOut = Inverted.
Then you don't care about dwell and stock ECU can drive it just fine because all that matters are the trigger edges.
I've been running 300M COPs with such box in my '94 for years. IIRC I had the only Miata here and on m.net running COPs back then (besides Minimonster) and those are still running great
Btw, I think those Toyota/Lexus dumb coils are popular (just like the 300M ones) among the CDI crowd at the AEM forums. I remember people sourcing connectors for these and posting the Toyota/Lexus part numbers there.
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