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BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 10:16 AM

How to remove a broken bolt
 
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How to remove a Broken Bolt

There are many different methods.

This is one of the more common methods using an EZ-Out


This method works best on bolts that broke due to being over tighten.
The EZ-out method has little success on cross threaded or rusted bolts.

The tools needed are few.
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Drill
Proper size drill bit
A good sharp center punch
Hammer
Crescent wrench
Proper size EZ-OUT

There is two different styles of EZ-out, A left handed spiral flute and a straight flute.

I will be using a spiral flute in this removal.
The spiral flute will screw down and get a firm “bite” on the inside of the broken bolt.
First with the hammer and center punch, knock a good divit as close as possible to the center of the bolt.
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This is done so the drill bit will not walk around when you start to drill.
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Now with the drill bit in the drill motor.
I am using a 1/8 inch drill bit, the broken bolt is a 8mm (5/16ths)
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Drill appox. 1/8th to 1/4th inch down the center of the bolt.
Drill as straight as possible.
Some times it will be necessary to drill all the way through the bolt.
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Blow all the metal chips out of the bolt hole.
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Now take the EZ-Out and tap in to the hole you just drilled.
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Now using the square on the back end of the EZ-out.
Gently apply pressure to the broken bolt, until you feel movement.
If you apply too much pressure, and snap the EZ-Out off in the hole, you will have more serious issues.
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Stein Apr 19, 2012 10:31 AM

I have gone to using a tap handle on EZ outs instead of a crescent wrench where space allows. It prevents side loading the EZ out and allows more even pressure which can lessen the chance of EZ out breakage.

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 10:42 AM

Stein.. that is a good way too.... I have the neat square drive sockets that fit snug on the back of taps and EZ outs, those are real handy to have.

Faeflora Apr 19, 2012 10:44 AM

And what if you snap the ez out?

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 866867)
And what if you snap the ez out?

The quick awnser..... You are screwed.

Depending on what you were removing the broken bout out of when you snapped the EZ out, it could be cheaper and quicker to replace the part.

I have sold heads to people that boken EZ outs in studs and bolts.

I have taken 3-4 hours working to remove broken EZ outs. Sort of hard to hand a $150-$200 bill to some one for that.

shuiend Apr 19, 2012 10:54 AM

When I get to my computer later I will post a picture of a bolt that broke in an annoying location. Hopefully you will say this method would work for getting it out.

Stein Apr 19, 2012 10:56 AM

We had a landing gear trunnion (the thing that holds the front wheel on an aircraft) that came in to our shop. They broke off an EZ out. We used our EDM to burn out the EZ out. Sent it back to them. Instead of trying another EZ out they drilled out the bolt and dug out the threads that were left over but buggered up the threads in the trunnion so they ran a tap down to chase the threads. Broke the tap. Sent it back to us and we EDM'ed out the broken tap. All in all, they had well over a grand in removing that broken bolt but a new trunnion was about $18K so it was still cheap. Just would have been cheaper had they not screwed it up the first or second time, though.

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 10:59 AM

Stein... That was cost efftive then, But to spend 2 hours on a broken ez out in a GM 3.1 or 3.4 GM head is not, Not when a fully rebuilt head is $125

Scrappy Jack Apr 19, 2012 10:59 AM

Or the big grade 8 (?) bolts that hold the rear sub-frame bracing on a '94...

:ugh:

fooger03 Apr 19, 2012 11:06 AM

I broke an EZ-out in a motorcycle frame once. Several dulled drill bits later, I decided there was no way in hell i was going to get the tool-steel out. I drilled/tapped a hole next to it, fortunately it was a low-tolerance application. Since then, my preferred method for removing stuck bolts has been to drill out the bolt entirely and re-tap the hole. If my drill is centered right, I've been able to hit the same threads in the past, effectively unchanging the part.

curly Apr 19, 2012 02:30 PM

---- the ------- easy outs. I think that's a JP quote even.

Sorry, as much as I love your threads you won't get much easy out love from mt.net, I'm surprised more of the haters haven't chimed in yet. Maybe they're off stewing in their rage. I know I've read plenty of stories of people ruining lots of parts with them. I've used them successfully, but I've also had them break.

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 03:07 PM

Curly, I understand, EZ outs work best when the fastner has sheared off, now if the faster was over torqued and snapped off, or cross threaded, or rusted (bimetal oxidadation) then they are worthless, and another method will have to be used.

Scrappy Jack Apr 19, 2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by BogusSVO (Post 866989)
Curly, I understand, EZ outs work best when the fastner has sheared off, now if the faster was over torqued and snapped off, or cross threaded, or rusted (bimetal oxidadation) then they are worthless, and another method will have to be used.

Wait... What's the difference between "sheared off" and "over-torqued and snapped off" in the way you are using them?

mgeoffriau Apr 19, 2012 04:12 PM

Misread title as "How not to remove a broken bolt", disappointed at lack of dumbassery.

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 04:15 PM

Sheared off to me means a lateral load on the fastner caused it to break, with out over loading the engaugement threads.

Over torqued = streched on the axial, overloading of the engaugment threads.

Scrappy Jack Apr 19, 2012 04:58 PM

Looking forward to the "how to remove an over-torqued and snapped-off bolt" thread.

:ugh:

jasonb Apr 19, 2012 05:39 PM

on the couple of occasions where i needed to remove a borken bolt i just found a sacrificial socket that you would use on your ratchet. put it over the end of the broken bolt and hit it with the mig. plug in ratchet and off u go. didn't work very well if the bolt broke off deep tho.

BogusSVO Apr 19, 2012 05:43 PM

Jason, you can do the same thing with nuts. The heat of welding will sometimes help loosen the broken bolt.

jasonb Apr 19, 2012 11:01 PM

awwwsooo kung fu master. thank u, i like, cheeper.

Bryce Apr 20, 2012 04:33 AM

EZ out worked wonders on my oil pump housing screws. The Philips heads stripping would count as an example of "sheared off".


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