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BogusSVO 01-04-2013 10:24 AM

How to remove a Broken Bolt
 
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How to remove a Broken Bolt

There are many different methods.

This is one of the more common methods using an EZ-Out


This method works best on bolts that broke due to being over tighten.
The EZ-out method has little success on cross threaded or rusted bolts.

The tools needed are few.
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Drill
Proper size drill bit
A good sharp center punch
Hammer
Crescent wrench
Proper size EZ-OUT

There is two different styles of EZ-out, A left handed spiral flute and a straight flute.

I will be using a spiral flute in this removal.
The spiral flute will screw down and get a firm “bite” on the inside of the broken bolt.
First with the hammer and center punch, knock a good divit as close as possible to the center of the bolt.
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This is done so the drill bit will not walk around when you start to drill.
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Now with the drill bit in the drill motor.
I am using a 1/8 inch drill bit, the broken bolt is a 8mm (5/16ths)
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Drill appox. 1/8th to 1/4th inch down the center of the bolt.
Drill as straight as possible.
Some times it will be necessary to drill all the way through the bolt.
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Blow all the metal chips out of the bolt hole.
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Now take the EZ-Out and tap in to the hole you just drilled.
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Now using the square on the back end of the EZ-out.
Gently apply pressure to the broken bolt, until you feel movement.
If you apply too much pressure, and snap the EZ-Out off in the hole, you will have more serious issues.
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Leafy 01-04-2013 11:28 AM

Do you have a method for rusted bolts? Thats my big issue, thanks New England. I've broken off many an ez out (straight and spiral) trying to extract rusted bolts.

StarletRick 01-04-2013 12:07 PM

for rusty stuff, i just do the above + fire.

i live in England, so my car is about 94% rust.

Joe Perez 01-04-2013 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by BogusSVO (Post 964964)
If you apply too much pressure, and snap the EZ-Out off in the hole, you will have more serious issues.

This is about the only thing I have ever managed to accomplish with an EZ-OUT.

BogusSVO 01-04-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 964992)
Do you have a method for rusted bolts? Thats my big issue, thanks New England. I've broken off many an ez out (straight and spiral) trying to extract rusted bolts.

The EZ method seldom works on a rusted bolt, it works best on a sheared, or streached bolt.

I am working on another method to show you for rusted bolts.


Originally Posted by StarletRick (Post 965007)
for rusty stuff, i just do the above + fire.

^^ This, alot of fire, make it glow!


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 965012)
This is about the only thing I have ever managed to accomplish with an EZ-OUT.

Most the time that is becuse the hole is not large enough, I commonly see this with people that have not used ez-outs alot.

Efini~FC3S 01-04-2013 01:19 PM

I've never had much success with ez-outs either.

I tend to go straight for the red wrench (heat) for any stubborn or rusty bolt or nut...

Jebrccars 01-04-2013 06:08 PM

I have had the EZ method work well in the past but I use PB blaster + time and then if it still does not work then get out the torch.

EO2K 01-04-2013 06:34 PM

PB Blaster or Kroil + smokewrench = winning

Don't you homos ever reassemble anything with copper anti-seize? Loctite 37616 stick FTMFW

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...jLqhwAT6Fw-Wow

rleete 01-04-2013 06:59 PM

I live in the rust belt. Everything gets the standard grey never-seez. I've been using it for decades. I'd sooner give up my ratchets than that stuff.

njn63 01-04-2013 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 965145)
PB Blaster or Kroil + smokewrench = winning

Don't you homos ever reassemble anything with copper anti-seize? Loctite 37616 stick FTMFW

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...jLqhwAT6Fw-Wow

Tell that to the former owners of my car. I'm just fixing their mistakes. :vash:

I joined the "only thing I've managed to do with an EZ out is break it" club this weekend. First and probably last time using one.

EO2K 01-04-2013 07:19 PM

Gotcha, I'm a member as well. I just paid great heap wampum to have 8 broken bolts removed from the heads on my truck. :vash:

BogusSVO 01-04-2013 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 965159)
Gotcha, I'm a member as well. I just paid great heap wampum to have 8 broken bolts removed from the heads on my truck. :vash:

How much they charge you per bolt???
The heads off?

Joe Perez 01-04-2013 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by BogusSVO (Post 965172)
How much they charge you per bolt???

Apparently 1/8th of a heap.

hornetball 01-04-2013 11:22 PM

My last EZ out attempt actually worked!! Joe, remember that AC bracket bolt that causes an oil weap when it's missing (or, in my case, broken)? I actually removed it easily with an EZ out. I was shocked. Must be living right.

I think the key with an EZ out is that it doesn't hurt to try but don't apply significant torque. It either starts backing out pretty effortlessly or you should be trying another method.

jmann 01-05-2013 01:41 AM

It has been my experience that the spiral one breaks a whole lot easier then the square ones. I have broken a few spiral ones over the years but have never broken a square one, it usally just lets go and starts reaming out the hole. It doesn't screw itself in like a spiral one does and I don't think it is heat treat hardened as much as a spiral one.

psreynol 01-05-2013 04:34 AM

edm drill

Leafy 01-05-2013 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 965264)
edm drill

You have no idea how badly I would love to plop down the couple grand that one of these babys cost. Just a simple tap disintegrator with a magnet base would be all sorts of winning. I never looked heavily but if they made a magnet base model small enough to fit in an engine bay with the engine in it, it would be amazing.

EO2K 01-05-2013 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by BogusSVO (Post 965172)
How much they charge you per bolt???
The heads off?

Heads off, and A LOT. I literally could have bought a running NA for what I paid, but it wasn't just the bolts. I managed to break off 4 of the 8 exhaust manifold bolts in each head while trying to R&R the broken iron manifolds. I broke 2 EZ-Outs before throwing my hands up and then ripping off the heads and the 9,000lb iron intake manifold and paying someone to fix it. I took the opportunity to have the heads completely rebuilt and also install some headers. Runs better and get more mileage now that all the valves seal ("more" is a relative term with a Ford FE.) Funny how that works...


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 965185)
Apparently 1/8th of a heap.

I honestly didn't look, the total was hideous. I didn't WANT to know after 16 new valves, seats, seals, machine time and shop hours to get it all put together. The shop does GREAT work, but yee gods, they are expensive. I'd not hesitate to trust them with anything... if money was no object. Needless to say, I will think twice and explore many options before using them again.

hornetball 01-05-2013 11:42 PM

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Hah. I did exactly the same thing on my Fury (MOPAR RB Block instead of a Ford FE). Heads needed rebuilding anyway. Took the opportunity to get hardened exhaust valve seats put in for unleaded.

GDSpeed 01-06-2013 12:09 AM

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Heh - thanks for the writeup/comments. I get to start my very first ez-out adventure with this guy. Bolt that holds down the battery bracket in the trunk snapped clean off at the threads.

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