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cordycord 04-28-2012 05:16 PM

Idle Advance Control Valve (IACV) on Throttle Body
 
Anyone ever fiddled with removing, capping off or closing the loop of the IACV, located at the bottom of the throttle body? I know that with a MS unit the idle can be controlled, but don't know what kind of hell I'd get in by simply disconnecting the unit.

Is it for cold start or emissions only?

NiklasFalk 04-28-2012 05:31 PM

Just disconnect the connector and see how you like it...

Savington 04-28-2012 05:34 PM

If the car is driven on the street, you really want to keep the idle valve. Theseus doesn't have one, but it idles at 1200rpm without the fan on and ~1000rpm with the fan on.

triple88a 04-28-2012 05:43 PM

Why not just set the maximum value to 0 or disconnect it and be done with it?

Extra juice when the alternator kicks on, AC, cold starts, initial starts, hot idle/fans kicking on.. In all those the IAC helps stabilize the extra load/rpm.

cordycord 04-28-2012 06:12 PM

My reason for asking...I've got a 70mm throttle body that's intended for a Honda. I want to do some testing with it, and didn't know what type of variables to expect. It's going on a 1999 with AC and PS delete.

I'm curious more than anything to see how the car will respond to the throttle body on cars in various states of modification. First step, mostly stock.

Braineack 04-28-2012 06:18 PM

Why not control the honda iidle valve...

cordycord 04-28-2012 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 871364)
Why not control the honda idle valve...

That's on the list. :) I simply don't want to reproduce a tangle of lines that may have been put there by Uncle Sam.

Braineack 04-28-2012 08:13 PM

are you talking about the coolant lines?

triple88a 04-28-2012 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 871400)
are you talking about the coolant lines?

Well the hyper reroute would take care of those. :bowrofl:

rleete 04-28-2012 08:37 PM

Ka-slam!

cordycord 04-28-2012 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 871400)
are you talking about the coolant lines?

Them are the ones I'm talking about. I have this frustrating habit of questioning the value of everything on the car--is it really needed? Can it be made better, lighter, etceteras. I can understand not wanting the idle to hunt when using the A/C, but the A/C is long gone. And if I'm doing all of this for the gubmint, then I'd just as soon NOT.

I'm rebuilding a 1977 Chevy Blazer, and have put a more efficient, cleaner fuel injected engine in it. California is going to make me jump through hoops to register because it doesn't see the pre-heater hose going from the header to the carburetor, or other vacuum lines that are no longer required. I'm installing catalytic converters (2) as well, but they probably won't be the kind that are mandated. Cleaner, more efficient, quieter, illegal. :jerkit:

Braineack 04-28-2012 10:42 PM

Pull them and forget.

cordycord 04-29-2012 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 871435)
Pull them and forget.


YES! That's what I wanted to hear. :) Thank you Mr. Brain...

Savington 04-29-2012 04:39 PM

You can pull the coolant lines off without any ill effect, but if you just remove the entire idle valve and cap it off, driveability will suffer.

shlammed 06-20-2012 04:15 PM

Bumping this older thread.


What do you think of the complete removal of the iacv for a track-only car?

triple88a 06-20-2012 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 892975)
Bumping this older thread.


What do you think of the complete removal of the iacv for a track-only car?

Why would you want to remove it even for race application? 2oz weight reduction?

vehicular 06-20-2012 04:30 PM

My first Miata idled better with no IACV and no AC than my current one does with AC and the stock IACV controlled by an MSPNP.

You'd play hell trying to keep the thing lit with AC and no IACV, but without either, I wouldn't sweat it. I didn't notice any significant idle change when the fans kicked on/ alternator load changed, btw. It was rock solid 900-1000 rpm pretty much all the time.

soviet 06-20-2012 04:48 PM

I just finally connected my idle control valve after 1.5 years and 16000 miles of driving without one.
I ran it purely on the idle screw and ~950-1000rpm idle. No AC or PS.

Only had issues with idle after it sat outside in freezing temperatures for a week. The fix for that was to just hold the throttle for a minute and then it was able to idle.

So in my opinion it is completely optional.

triple88a 06-20-2012 04:57 PM

How about when fans turn on, or you raise the windows and all that? Track car sure no windows but still have the fans.

vehicular 06-20-2012 05:00 PM

Fans had no appreciable effect on my car, and it had roll up windows.


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