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jus390 04-15-2012 01:00 AM

I'm new I don't know what to do. 1.8?
 
So, I'm at 218k on my 1.6L. I want opinions/thoughts. Should I swap to the 1.8?

nitrodann 04-15-2012 03:59 AM

I dunno.

Dann

18psi 04-15-2012 04:57 AM

lol

neogenesis2004 04-15-2012 05:23 AM

42

thirdgen 04-15-2012 06:10 AM

Just turbo it....No balls.

rouseyss 04-15-2012 07:51 AM

gotta give more info on what your doing with the car what are your plans for the car.. Cant just say what do I do. That will help get you some productive answers

jus390 04-15-2012 02:29 PM

I have a completely stock 1.6 with hella miles. I have had people tell me to just turbo the current one 1.6l and I have had people say to order a new 1.6 first. Iam now getting pushed toward a 1.8 swap. But do not know if the gain is worth it or not. Or if I should just run the current engine to the ground.

thirdgen 04-15-2012 03:21 PM

Do a compression and leakdown test, tell us the results. It will be then that we will give you our genuine opinion.

gearhead_318 04-15-2012 03:26 PM

OP, your question is very vague. What do you want to do with the car? Answer thirdgens question too.

rouseyss 04-15-2012 03:30 PM

it sounds like you just want to freshen up the motor because you dont think this motor is gonna last long. What I would do is look for a deal on a 1.8 and get the fm install kit and then do what maintenance to the 1.8 while the 1.6 is still in and running. Then you can eventually boost the 1.8 in the future if thats something you want to do down the road. Is that a viable option?

gearhead_318 04-15-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by rouseyss (Post 864722)
it sounds like you just want to freshen up the motor because you dont think this motor is gonna last long. What I would do is look for a deal on a 1.8 and get the fm install kit and then do what maintenance to the 1.8 while the 1.6 is still in and running. Then you can eventually boost the 1.8 in the future if thats something you want to do down the road. Is that a viable option?

That is very good advice. Do what this guy said too.

218,000K = 135,000 miles btw, so the mileage isn't too high.

jus390 04-15-2012 04:01 PM

I wanna be boosted yes. Would be nice and it's not that I think the motor won't last because it had been very well taken care of. I have all paper work all mantinence has been done at dealer for the most part. Runs great. Will do the compression test and post when i do. Shearhead: why do u say 218 = 135?

baron340 04-15-2012 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by jus390 (Post 864740)
218 = 135?

Lol... look at his units, you missed the most important part of this sentence. 218,000 kilometers = 135,000 miles. Or did you mean 218,000 miles? There are 2 different assumptions happening, and you weren't descriptive enough in your original post. My guess is he thought your statement of 218k meant kilometers.

gearhead_318 04-15-2012 05:10 PM

For some reason I thought you where European.

rouseyss 04-15-2012 05:16 PM

So why are you wanting to rebuild the motor if its still good compression? If youre going to go boosted you will see far better results with the 1.8. If you have good compression across the board go ahead and build you a 1.8 and go have fun doin some roll races and surprise some stuff but if you want to track the car dont spend the money on boost until you have a feel for it. These are things I have learned from this site.

elesjuan 04-15-2012 05:41 PM

I can has car. Wut do nao?

gearhead_318 04-15-2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 864770)
I can has car. Wut do nao?

cut shoks. mak lower for better handeling . get sportmaxx wheels too.

elesjuan 04-15-2012 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 864772)
cut shoks. mak lower for better handeling . get sportmaxx wheels too.

:rofl:

Just make sure you use a torch to cut the shocks. :D

gearhead_318 04-15-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 864836)
:rofl:

Just make sure you use a torch to cut the shocks. :D

Good thinking bro, I'll tell fae to put the sawzall away. He won't he happy about that.

hustler 04-15-2012 09:54 PM

Do what I'm doing. Sure, you could buy a fun daily for $30k, but I decided to do a VVT/6-speed-3.63/MS2 swap on my daily. It beats the ---- out of driving an appliance.

hustler 04-15-2012 10:15 PM

Edit:
On second though, you should start with a built engine and a good turbo set-up from ARTech. Everyone deserves a fast Miata, NA is fail/AIDZ.

fooger03 04-16-2012 09:26 AM

Srsly, U need 2 look @ safety b4 u start adding powah. 1.8L is not safe in 1.6L car. U will shoot ur eye out.

krissetsfire 04-16-2012 05:21 PM

hey breh. i heared the 1.6 jdm motors are pretty sik. u shuld get 1 of those. id be tight yo!

..... you didn't say if anything else has been done to your car or not. miata first upgrade = suspension. second upgrade ms.

If your motor has to be rebuilt or replaced... 1.8. you can build whatever motor you want but I wouldn't bother until you upgrade the other stuff first.

If i had to do it again i would have parted out my 1.6 or resold it and bought a 1.8 with good compression and leakdown numbers. around here they can be found in good shape for 3-4k $$$ sell decent shape 1.6 miata $1800ish. you then get better motor, brakes, torsen and didn't even have to go through the hassle of swapping and are around pr @ the same price point. no brainer here speaking from pervious experience. Saw an M addition for 3200 the other day and it was an excellent 95' with 102k miles. made me a little sad. Could have put half the effort into my car and been just as nice and saved myself a couple thousand.

Vilko 04-17-2012 04:50 AM

---- ripoff sportsmaxx, get genuine rotas!


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