internal pieces (n0ub trolls for mystery)
hi there!
I am thinking about install a turbo kit, nothing crazy like the simplest BEGI kit. I just want to know how much power does the engine and internal pieces can handle, like the crankshaft, camshaft, pistons, rods I mean the stock pieces... thx! |
let us know what you find out
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It's JDM so 600 bone stock.
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dont listen to him, the stock injectors will only get you 325 - the rest is 600 easy
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sry forgot about the injectors.
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Fucking 600 no way dont listen to these trolls. Its a more realistic 380. 420 on a really good tune.
Dann |
what is this i dont even
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this thread is so epic
it goes on LOCKDOWN unless it gets a little more .. something. |
Harold.
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Over 9000!
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130whp is the limit on the stock block.
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
(Post 723955)
Fucking 600 no way dont listen to these trolls. Its a more realistic 380. 420 on a really good tune.
Dann Don't listen to this hater :jerkit: Stock block can handle 600hp EASY :laugh: |
No dont listen to him HES THE TROLL !
Dann |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 724048)
this thread is so epic
it goes on LOCKDOWN unless it gets a little more .. something. |
I'd look into ITB's if I were you.
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Do you have the V6 or the Inline 4? That will make a big difference.
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He has the JDM one I think. The little 1 cylinder rotary. They do have weak rods I suppose..?
Dann |
OH shit, that would suck.
OP, please tell us you don't have the JDM 1-cyl rotary. |
Wait, maybe he has the V-4 that only came in the Chinese models......
You don't want the V-4 or the 1cyl rotaty! They're both garbage and will pop with even a 15hp increase!!!!!1111!1! Get the V6 swap though. That shit is boss. You can get the V6 from a similar year (to your miata) mustang (remember, Ford owned Mazda back in the day). Drop that shit in (it'll bolt up to your tranny) and you'll make assloads of power. |
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Ha yes that it 300hps for the real is what im you know that.
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This is now a Spiderman thread.
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I was considering buying a hardbody pickup and turboing it a while back. While lurking one of the KA forums they had a sticky with limits posted for various stock parts, as well as a basic upgrade path for various power levels. It actually answered all my basic stupid noob questions, which was pretty cool.
Maybe we should think about doing something like that... we could put it in a forum all by itself, maybe name it "Useful Saved Posts", then we could have a thread titled, "DIY FAQ - ALL your answers in one big post". We could capitalize the ALL, as if to emphasize it even more. We could even make it a sticky so it would be basically impossible for people to miss. I really think this could work guys! |
+1 post for me ! yay
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Originally Posted by pdexta
(Post 724208)
I was considering buying a hardbody pickup and turboing it a while back. While lurking one of the KA forums they had a sticky with limits posted for various stock parts, as well as a basic upgrade path for various power levels. It actually answered all my basic stupid noob questions, which was pretty cool.
Maybe we should think about doing something like that... we could put it in a forum all by itself, maybe name it "Useful Saved Posts", then we could have a thread titled, "DIY FAQ - ALL your answers in one big post". We could capitalize the ALL, as if to emphasize it even more. We could even make it a sticky so it would be basically impossible for people to miss. I really think this could work guys! |
oh wait thats been done NOOOB!!!!
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Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio
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Get the V6 swap though. That shit is boss. You can get the V6 from a similar year (to your miata) mustang (remember, Ford owned Mazda back in the day). Drop that shit in (it'll bolt up to your tranny) and you'll make assloads of power. The only problem with the SHO v6 in the miata is you need a custom exhaust manifold so turbo not hit block. How much power do you want? I was making 22psi in my last SHO, it would pull z06's. Fucking v8's are so heavy. |
The mustangs had the 3.8L super-garbage V6...the SHO's have had a 3.0L or 3.2L (1992-1995), a 3.4L V8 (1996-1999) and now a 3.5L V6. They've never had the same motor
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Dude you are getting trolled again. Play along or gtfo.
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Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio
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The mustangs had the 3.8L super-garbage V6...the SHO's have had a 3.0L or 3.2L (1992-1995), a 3.4L V8 (1996-1999) and now a 3.5L V6. They've never had the same motor
http://scienceblogs.com/isisthescien...%20forever.jpg |
Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio
(Post 724364)
The mustangs had the 3.8L super-garbage V6...the SHO's have had a 3.0L or 3.2L (1992-1995), a 3.4L V8 (1996-1999) and now a 3.5L V6. They've never had the same motor
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: it was the 3.4 that had the boss vortec heads right? (and the 3.0 is from 89-95, 3.2: 93-95 autos only) |
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
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Fucking 600 no way dont listen to these trolls. Its a more realistic 380. 420 on a really good tune.
Dann |
no you has to using special turbo rods from v6 miata and using injections from rotary v6 rx7 but only using from 07-09 rx7.
good luck with build, i have same thing, pushing 400 reliable hoarspower to front wheel. |
I've modified the awd miata drivetrain to allow only the front left and rear right wheel to have power go to it. This allows for maximum traction, if you are going to run 400hps you should def do this mod. It's very easy just acquire awd drivetrain (super cheap since no one wants them) and then remove the front right axle and rear left axle. Good luck with build.
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^best wisdom evar
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
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I've modified the awd miata drivetrain to allow only the front left and rear right wheel to have power go to it. This allows for maximum traction, if you are going to run 400hps you should def do this mod. It's very easy just acquire awd drivetrain (super cheap since no one wants them) and then remove the front right axle and rear left axle. Good luck with build.
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I built an AWD miata once using the SHO Boss 302 vortec heads with titanium buckets and carbon fiber push-rods, on a mustang 3.8 block (for the extra displacement) using a Triton crank to further up the displacement and allow for more revs.
Make sure you get the limited edition mazdaspeed awd transmission. It had an extra gear. It would light all the tires up in all 7 gears. And for those 10 seconds, I was free. |
Originally Posted by tasty danish
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I built an AWD miata once using the SHO Boss 302 vortec heads with titanium buckets and carbon fiber push-rods, on a mustang 3.8 block (for the extra displacement) using a Triton crank to further up the displacement and allow for more revs.
Make sure you get the limited edition mazdaspeed awd transmission. It had an extra gear. It would light all the tires up in all 7 gears. And for those 10 seconds, I was free. |
Originally Posted by skidude
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10 seconds??!!?!?!!!? UR shit is sl0w d00d!
Plus you gotta work the Vin Diesel angle |
Don't forget that you have to run a MoTEC exhaust to get the most gain from your TURBO kits.
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If I was going to redo it I'd just get a Spoon Sr20.
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Hi, and welcome to the forum!
As turbine efficiency has significantly increased over the years, a turbocharging method less stressful on the "internal pieces" has become viable. The modernized chinese turbochargers are a great choice for inexpensive horsepower without needing to replace the expensive pistons, rods, camshafts, or crankshafts. It's really simple once you realize horsepower is just about flow and not BOOOSSTT like all these darn "tuner-heads" trying to sell you overpriced forged engine internals would have you believe. By mounting the turbocharger on the intake side of the engine instead of the exhaust you relieve the engine internals from the extra "boost" pressure that breaks and destroys engines while still increasing flow with a "turbo vacuum" that is much better for your engine while still making 4 times the stock horsepower. You can find the correct modernized chinese turbocharger for as little as $200. Reverse turbocharging is a big hit with the racing community, but it's still kind of a "new thing" so some of the needed parts are hard to find for the miata. However, I am a certified GTAW welder and have a fully capable fabrication shop and am looking for someone with a miata to develop a reverse turbo kit with. I have a kit I developed installed on my BMW 3 series convertible and I beat Corvettes ALL DAY. Let me know if you're interested, I'll only charge you ~$100 for the cost of materials! |
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