Any plans to boost the K24? Although I have a feeling neither the 5 or 6 speed tranny will hold up with that amount of torque.
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Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon
(Post 1362651)
Any plans to boost the K24? Although I have a feeling neither the 5 or 6 speed tranny will hold up with that amount of torque.
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Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon
(Post 1362651)
Any plans to boost the K24? Although I have a feeling neither the 5 or 6 speed tranny will hold up with that amount of torque.
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I wouldn't say diminishing returns at all, if NA power is what your after. I looked at the swap as having the best platform to build on. A great chassis with a great motor, i didn't nickel and dime my swap and compare it to a boosted BP because i know that the purpose of the swap was to upgrade the ultimate potential of the car boosted or NA. After having the car running for over a year now I can say that i would go this route over a boosted BP any day.
Now i have a car that can be 300 whp NA and not over power the miata drivetrain. Or i can have a 500 whp boosted car and i would be in the same boat as the big turbo BP guys. But the cost of the swap sometimes needs to be a wash. We all spend money on these cars because we love these cars. There are much better options out the for HP per dollar. If you can forget what you spent to get the motor into the car and look at the cost of a motor build vs motor build, the K wins every time. Its 10k for a supermiata whammy engine with all the bells and whistles for maybe 200whp, for that same amount 4piston racing can give you a 340whp K24. Bolt on a turbo kit to a BP for 5k and you get 250 whp Bolt on a turbo kit on a k24 for 5k and you get 450 whp. |
Originally Posted by ctdrftna
(Post 1362777)
If you can forget what you spent to get the motor into the car
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Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1362887)
Well sure, if you can just forget the $6-7k you have to spend to get to the baseline......
Anyone able to match 600whp for 5-6 grand? |
I think you've got us there.
ANYWAY... A lot of it is preference. You can get 500 whp for $15k (conservatively, realistically more like $20k with a beefy drivetrain needed to hold it) and a turbo'd KSwap doing all the work yourself. Or, you can get a little less than that for about the same money with an LS swap. Different strokes. I Should probably stop promoting the thread drift though. This is a beautiful build. |
Originally Posted by Scaxx
(Post 1362910)
Anyone able to match 600whp for 5-6 grand? |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1362887)
Well sure, if you can just forget the $6-7k you have to spend to get to the baseline......
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I can't see any of the pictures anymore and this thread needs an update anyways...
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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
(Post 1396251)
I can't see any of the pictures anymore and this thread needs an update anyways...
Once I get my other car and can have this laid up again, I might start planning a ground up engine build, get it prepped and ready to drop in, then spend a weekend doing the swap. I'd love to have another 40 or so WHP at least. |
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9e6fa563ca.jpgBonus picture. I really just wanted something to move my bike around quickly :-P
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I always feel it's necessary to plug my own solution when I see this. (PS, ignore the flats on the road bike, my dad borrowed it)
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First KMiata with a bicycle attached to the back? I think so!
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A superb creation and definitely the way to go.However us poor devils on this side of the pond have a steering column in the wrong position for the inlet..
Will have to look into clearances and freight cost for a full install kit. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1334163)
A DW100 replaces the factory fuel pump in the tank for a little extra capacity without overpowering the OEM 60psi FPR.
https://i.imgur.com/TrWC2ryl.jpg? TIA |
Fuel is not conductive. You just don't want bare metal touching. I used PTFE heatshrink with good results.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1410977)
Fuel is not conductive. You just don't want bare metal touching. I used PTFE heatshrink with good results.
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Originally Posted by Ian
(Post 1410970)
Apologies for the mild thread-jack - what did you use for fuel safe heat shrink on your in-tank rewire? I tried some PTFE heat shrink I found on Amazon, but it's not sealing completely. Given the intended environment, it's not work taking any risks.
TIA |
K24 for a DD Miata?
Originally Posted by Kaustic
(Post 1396253)
well, I've been driving the car basically every day since the last update here.
Once I get my other car and can have this laid up again, I might start planning a ground up engine build, get it prepped and ready to drop in, then spend a weekend doing the swap. I'd love to have another 40 or so WHP at least. I'm just checking in to see how this K24 swap is working out for Kaustic as a DD.... I did send Kaustic a PM but have yet to hear back. I have access to a very low mileage (32k) '08 TSX of known providence (my aunt's car was rear ended, thus totaled by her insurance co.). Considering this swap for my 10AE with it's oem six speed and Torsen. Calif. CARB laws are a non issue, no worries there. Now that David has worked out the a/c solution makes this swap feasible for me as I live in the hot toasty desert and a/c is a must have. Andy Hollis recommended a manual rack as opposed a converted p/s rack. Andy thought the K swap was a great solution for a DD. When Andy speaks, God listens. I have reviewed all the K24/Miata swaps I could find but I do have some questions. This will be a 90% street 10% track driven DD. No autocross. Track is Chuckwalla in SoCal a relatively short track. 1) How are the K swap motor mounts for NVH on a DD? Comparable to the harder Mazda Speed competition mounts? 2) How are the under hood temps? I'll plan on a Swain coated (white lightening) street header, should I plan on hood vents? 3) I have a 32mm Koyo radiator with shroud and mishimoto fans, will that be enough? 4) ECU: Hondadata Kpro4 vs K24 reflashed....I'm leaning towards the reflashed ECU. 5) My existing 3.909 rear Torsen vs a 3.636? Anything you K24 swap folks would do different for a street DD? I realize many K24 swaps are for dedicated track cars, but not in my case. Thanks folks.... Pat Conlon, Palm Desert, CA. |
Half street, half track K swap here.
1) I don't think it's bad but everyone has different limits for NVH. I had stock non-MS mounts before the swap. 2) Haven't had any issues with underhood temps. Currently using the race header with ceramic coating. I do have the closest harness to the exhaust wrapped though as well. 3) I have the Koyo Hyper V and stock fan and do fine. I'd get rid of the garbage Mishimoto fans. 4) I use Ktuner. Cheaper but uglier than Kpro. Would recommend against just a reflash. Too many variables. 5) Keep the 3.9. These motors rev a little more than the stock BP. |
Thanks Zeller! How long have you had your conversion and how many miles do you have on her? Good point on the mishimoto fans....they're coming off. I think I'll unshroud the Koyo and mount the new Spal fans like oem. It seems like with the shroud in place, it limits airflow at moderate to high speeds...just a hunch on my part. Yes, the Koyo is sealed around the edges to keep airflow directed thru the core. Only a couple of hundred more for the Kpro vs reflash, chump change in the long run. [edit] Holy Smokes, how did I miss your build thread? Just found it, my questions ^^ are answered. Subed for updates |
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