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falcon 01-09-2011 03:18 PM

LS1 Coil Packs
 
I am in the process of converting to LS1 coils from my Toyota COPS.

From the research I`ve done, the LS1 coils fire on 5v just like the COPS. So simple question. If I wire up the LS1 coils exactly the same as the COPS, all I `should` have to do is set my dwell to 5.5-6.0 or so. Or will some changes need to be made on my board. It seems like there were some posts about changing out the pull up to something with a lower resistance.

Also, has a recommended cranking dwell been figured out for these coils yet.

falcon 01-09-2011 03:41 PM

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I found this on Megamanual...
Attachment 191776
I imagine if I follow this wiring, all should be good.

falcon 01-09-2011 05:30 PM

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So it looks like the one difference between the LS1 and the Toyota coils is the extra ground on the LS1 coil and the tach signal on the COP.

Attachment 191770

How would the wiring change when going to the LS1. Would the sense ground go to an ECU ground pin, and the regular ground just to the head or something.

What would happen to the blackwhite and yellowblue wires that go to the tach signal on the COPS

falcon 01-10-2011 09:26 PM

anyone?

Gotpsi? 01-10-2011 09:30 PM

Why are you switching?

ianferrell 01-10-2011 10:03 PM

Ideally you want to use the tacho out from the ecu, there are other ways though... What ecu are you using?

falcon 01-10-2011 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by ianferrell (Post 677614)
Ideally you want to use the tacho out from the ecu, there are other ways though... What ecu are you using?

MS1... not sure if it even has a tacho output?


Originally Posted by Gotpsi? (Post 677604)
Why are you switching?

Just want to try something different.

ianferrell 01-10-2011 10:28 PM

I kinda doubt ms1 has support for tacho output... Time to upgrade to ms3 w/ ms3x and run full sequential :) The 96+ cars generate the tach signal from the ecu instead of from the coils, you might read about what those ppl do.

falcon 01-10-2011 10:53 PM

To make the tach work with the MS1 you need to jump two wires in the diagnostic box with a 1k 1/4watt resistor. Perhaps that wire would be a place to get the tach from?

Here's the thing though. Do they actually need the tach output operational? The Toyota COPS don't use a tach wire at all.

ianferrell 01-10-2011 11:08 PM

Those tach outputs from the coils usually drive the dash tach.

falcon 01-10-2011 11:47 PM

So if they don't have them, I'm screwed. Great. Maybe I'll stick with the COPS after all.

Bryce 01-11-2011 12:57 AM

Wait, What? I've been lurking here because I have a set of LS1 coils that I'll be putting on my car. It shouldn't be too hard to get a tach output using MS1. At least according to this thread. https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...s1+tach+output

Stealth97 01-11-2011 01:01 AM

the 96-97 MSPNP drive the tach from the ECU, and there is no funny firmware tricks going on, so I don't see why a standard MS1 could not drive a tach...

falcon 01-11-2011 01:10 AM

I'm sure it's easy. But I can't do it cause I don't touch that kind of stuff. I'll just keep my COPS for easyness.

richyvrlimited 01-11-2011 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by ianferrell (Post 677619)
I kinda doubt ms1 has support for tacho output... Time to upgrade to ms3 w/ ms3x and run full sequential :) .


MS1 does have a tacho output, bit of an extreme reason to upgrade to MSIII.

To get your MS1 to create a tach signal just build this simple ass circuit, should take all of ohhhh 10 minutes.

http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms1extra/...l.htm#tachoout

Has worked perfectly on my car for 4 years so far.

ianferrell 01-11-2011 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by richyvrlimited (Post 677669)
MS1 does have a tacho output, bit of an extreme reason to upgrade to MSIII.

To get your MS1 to create a tach signal just build this simple ass circuit, should take all of ohhhh 10 minutes.

http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms1extra/...l.htm#tachoout

Has worked perfectly on my car for 4 years so far.

Was trying to be funny, I see I failed :)


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