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shaifrik 09-02-2014 07:41 AM

max rpm
 
hi

I have Miata na 1840cc turbo 370 whp
now I do some change up to 450 whp

my engine

wiseco pistons

carrillo rods h beam

head

ferrea valves,retiners and dual valves springs(70lbs 35 mm)

now I replace the oem camshaft (kelford 272/272 10mm )

who much rpm capable with hydraulic lifters?
thanks

guttedmiata 09-02-2014 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by shaifrik (Post 1163047)
hi

I have Miata na 1840cc turbo 370 whp
now I do some change up to 450 whp

my engine

wiseco pistons

carrillo rods h beam

head

ferrea valves,retiners and dual valves springs(70lbs 35 mm)

now I replace the oem camshaft (kelford 272/272 10mm )

who much rpm capable with hydraulic lifters?
thanks

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shaifrik 09-16-2014 01:44 PM

Thanks

I do a little check and maruha racing and toda racing have this sub.
Some one have Experience with this company?
What the best camshaft for rev limit 8500rpm 272:272 or 264:264 ?
The booth camshaft i lift 10 mm

Thank

Erat 09-16-2014 01:50 PM

OEM oil pump?

shaifrik 09-16-2014 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1167668)
OEM oil pump?

Yes

shuiend 09-16-2014 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by shaifrik (Post 1167670)
Yes

You will need a Boundary Engineering oil pump if you want to rev that high and have the oil pump survive any amount of time.

thenuge26 09-16-2014 01:59 PM

You're gonna need a billet oil pump for either 8500rpm or 450whp, for both you definitely want one.

I can't help you on cam selection, but for 450whp I wouldn't think they are a big deal, Soviet hit that on stock cams.

shaifrik 09-16-2014 02:27 PM

Like this?

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product/other/b6-oilpump.html

shaifrik 09-16-2014 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1167674)
You're gonna need a billet oil pump for either 8500rpm or 450whp, for both you definitely want one.

I can't help you on cam selection, but for 450whp I wouldn't think they are a big deal, Soviet hit that on stock cams.

I can work with stoke camshaft but i wont to improve the top end.
My gol is power stable to 7800 and after the power down until 8300rpm

thenuge26 09-16-2014 03:15 PM

Not sure about that toda one, this is what most of the people here use: Mazda\Ford\Mercury Oil Pumps

I'm not sure I'd risk an engine costing several thousand dollars to save a few dollars on the oil pump.

18psi 09-16-2014 06:41 PM

you need billet oil pump if you rev that high.
that should be your #1 concern, like these guys are telling you

Erat 09-16-2014 06:54 PM

Also ATI harmonic ballancer. Especially if you plan on making power that high for an extended period of time.

bcrx7 09-16-2014 06:59 PM

I'm surprised he hasn't blown the engine with stock pump and 370whp already

shaifrik 09-17-2014 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1167713)
Not sure about that toda one, this is what most of the people here use: Mazda\Ford\Mercury Oil Pumps

I'm not sure I'd risk an engine costing several thousand dollars to save a few dollars on the oil pump.

ok the recommend take the high flow pump but this pump have pressure from 66 psi to 91 psi.

who much oil pressure the engine able carry?

thanks

ctdrftna 09-17-2014 05:07 AM

The motor will take the pressure those pumps put out, many people use there pumps.
Miataroadster.com sells billet pump gears as well.

Use super tech shim under bucket, and super tech lash caps. Make sure to have your spring pressures tested to match kelfords specs

thenuge26 09-17-2014 10:04 AM

Ask your engine builder, I think the pressure you want depends on your bearing clearances.

ctdrftna 09-17-2014 12:05 PM

10 psi per 1000rpm is a good rule if thumb

shaifrik 09-17-2014 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1167936)
Ask your engine builder, I think the pressure you want depends on your bearing clearances.

What abut the oil seal?

shaifrik 12-05-2014 05:07 AM

the kelford has arrive :)


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