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Old 05-17-2017, 01:56 PM
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Default Gordon freaks out over (alternative) facts about valve springs
Christ is this why I am puffing a bit of smoke rolling from a stop? I'm sitting here thinking my rings are toast yet leak down looks pretty solid.

I have another head being built with Supertech not being the wiser to Supertech Springs being potentially flakey and seals being leaky.

Edit: added citation per request to elaborate on post. Also added potentially to curb echo chamber conjecture found all over the forum.

Regarding the silent minority where folks may not be voicing observations because it's against the grain. Maybe we need to probe Leafy for his sources.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1314390

Originally Posted by Leafy
There's a non vocal (for fear of backlash from forum sponsors and mods) group of people whom have a major disdain for the supertech valve springs because they take a set and after some use seem to have significantly reduced seat pressure. I never noticed that problem with them in my motor, though I'm not sure I ran them long enough and I also havent measure the seat pressure currently.

This guy talking about retainers.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1393808
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
The failure I've seen was due to wear, all the way through (only inner spring holding the valve), possibly due to not tight enough so the spring rotates against the retainer wearing the soft Ti.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
Supertech Springs being flakey
WAT. Please explain.
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Supertech Springs being flakey
{{citation needed}}
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Originally Posted by EO2K
WAT. Please explain.
Originally Posted by Savington
{{citation needed}}
On it as soon as my flights are done.

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Regarding the silent minority where folks may not be voicing observations because it's against the grain. Maybe we need to probe Leafy for his sources.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1314390

Originally Posted by Leafy
There's a non vocal (for fear of backlash from forum sponsors and mods) group of people whom have a major disdain for the supertech valve springs because they take a set and after some use seem to have significantly reduced seat pressure. I never noticed that problem with them in my motor, though I'm not sure I ran them long enough and I also havent measure the seat pressure currently.

This guy talking about retainers.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1393808
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
The failure I've seen was due to wear, all the way through (only inner spring holding the valve), possibly due to not tight enough so the spring rotates against the retainer wearing the soft Ti.
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Valves, valve seals, and now springs?

BRB buying a Camry.
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Valves, valve seals, and now springs?

BRB buying a Camry.
BRB registering TurboCamry.net
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Originally Posted by EO2K
BRB registering TurboCamry.net
There's a lot more turbo Camrys than you'd think.

They have an advantage of having a motor that isn't hot trash, by and large.
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Leafy's not got a great record in my book as a source of reliable data.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Leafy's not got a great record in my book as a source of reliable data.
Understood. It's a bit hard to deduce when no one challenges certain statements. Much like if no one cites sources (including myself) even if it's accepted as common knowledge. From the outside statements quoted above might be hard to shake the shadow of doubt.

Sorry to kick up dust these past days.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
There's a lot more turbo Camrys than you'd think.

They have an advantage of having a motor that isn't hot trash, by and large.
Especially if it you put it in an SW20.

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Lol. That thread title tho
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Originally Posted by codrus
Especially if it you put it in an SW20.

--Ian
I need to find a hardtop sw20 before they become unobtainable
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If its a legitimate issue it would be nice to get more data points, kinda like what happened with the supertech valve seal thread. Of course with my name on it, people will probably just think I broke something else and move on to another thread.
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I know i unsubscribed before i even got to the point where you posted.
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