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JasonC SBB Nov 2, 2011 11:52 AM

Measure actual engine torque output!
 
http://www.autogard.com/uk/products/...torq/page1.htm

http://www.aemelectronics.com/dyno-s...pro-series-75/

18psi Nov 2, 2011 12:20 PM

Whats the point of paying for that crap then messing with installing it when there are tons of programs out there that will show you the cars power/torque and simulate a real dyno (and many are very accurate I must say)?

codrus Nov 2, 2011 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 791093)
Whats the point of paying for that crap then messing with installing it when there are tons of programs out there that will show you the cars power/torque and simulate a real dyno (and many are very accurate I must say)?

The difference between theory and practice is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.

--Ian

Seefo Nov 2, 2011 01:47 PM

^unless the Theory is proven wrong. but then again, its no longer a theory anymore, haha.

Joe Perez Nov 2, 2011 01:48 PM

Hmm.

$1,500 actually isn't all that bad, especially since it seems like it'd be relative easy to move between cars. Factor in the vehicle's service brakes, and assuming you have a long, empty stretch of road and a co-driver, you have a brake (load-bearing) dyno.

y8s Nov 2, 2011 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 791121)
Hmm.

$1,500 actually isn't all that bad, especially since it seems like it'd be relative easy to move between cars. Factor in the vehicle's service brakes, and assuming you have a long, empty stretch of road and a co-driver, you have a brake (load-bearing) dyno.

I wonder how much the liability insurance is.

JasonC SBB Nov 2, 2011 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 791121)
Hmm.

$1,500 actually isn't all that bad, especially since it seems like it'd be relative easy to move between cars. Factor in the vehicle's service brakes, and assuming you have a long, empty stretch of road and a co-driver, you have a brake (load-bearing) dyno.

Figure each (real) dyno tuning session would be at least $200.

JasonC SBB Nov 2, 2011 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 791093)
Whats the point of paying for that crap then messing with installing it when there are tons of programs out there that will show you the cars power/torque and simulate a real dyno (and many are very accurate I must say)?

They assume a perfectly flat road with 0 wind.
Do you have one?

Joe Perez Nov 2, 2011 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 791169)
They assume a perfectly flat road with 0 wind.
Do you have one?

I have one, but it's usually blocked by large herds of perfectly spherical cows.

18psi Nov 2, 2011 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 791169)
They assume a perfectly flat road with 0 wind.
Do you have one?

Fairly flat with a little wind will skew the numbers by no more than about 5hp/tq. I know I know, where then do you "draw the line", but IMO it gets you real close. At least close enough to help you tune quite a bit. I've been tinkering with these programs on Subarus/Evos for years now, and they're insanely accurate. Assuming you don't fudge the numbers or dyno off a cliff with 100mph tailwinds or something.

triple88a Nov 2, 2011 04:28 PM

Jason i'm assuming youre at SEMA?

JasonC SBB Nov 2, 2011 05:33 PM

No, I read a post about it.

LOL @ Joe's spherical cows.


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