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wayne_curr Jun 2, 2011 12:11 PM

MLS (Cometic) Head gasket and Roughness Average - Discuss
 
With my Cometic head gasket slated to arrive on Tuesday I'd like to get the block and head surfaces as smooth as possible but how smooth is "smooth". Cometic head gaskets require a RA50 or smoother whatever that means.

My head is smooth enough that I cannot feel anything with my fingers or my fingernail when I run it across the surface. However, my block deck has machining marks. When I run my fingernail across it I can feel it "zip" across the machining marks. This cant be good and i'm not looking forward to sanding it down with the block already assembled in the car.

Thoughts?

falcon Jun 2, 2011 12:18 PM

In the past on other cars I've done HG on, as long as there is no raised debris on it thats stuck on and it's flat, it was fine. Cleaned it with scotch pads and a block of wood with 1000grit paper and ran it in one direction to smooth it down a bit. Never had a leak.

wayne_curr Jun 2, 2011 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 733771)
In the past on other cars I've done HG on, as long as there is no raised debris on it thats stuck on and it's flat, it was fine. Cleaned it with scotch pads and a block of wood with 1000grit paper and ran it in one direction to smooth it down a bit. Never had a leak.

Well looks like i'm not going to be able to avoid sanding this block then. How in the hell am I going to keep metal out of the oil galley?

spitefulcheerio Jun 2, 2011 12:55 PM

1000 grit sandpaper shouldn't create large metal flakes. Tape over every hole in the block, sand it down and use a vacuum to suck up any shavings before removing the tape

curly Jun 2, 2011 05:52 PM

How the fuck is he supposed to tape holes and sand it?

Anton, try a machinist's stone, one of these:
http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=25957757
It's a sharpening stone, part number 4474A4, if the imagine doesn't work, I can't seem to find it anywhere else.

Put a few drops of oil on the block, and just hone it like you'd wax your hood, smallish, fast circles. Then just wipe it down a million times, until your cloth comes off clean. This'll help maintain the block's flat surface much better than sand paper would.

bbundy Jun 2, 2011 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by wayne_curr (Post 733782)
Well looks like i'm not going to be able to avoid sanding this block then. How in the hell am I going to keep metal out of the oil galley?

Ive had some places actually have a farly rough surface intentionally but I didnt ask why they did it. I used the spray on permatex copper stuff just because I think it would help with any imperfections.

Bob

wayne_curr Jun 3, 2011 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 733894)
Ive had some places actually have a farly rough surface intentionally but I didnt ask why they did it. I used the spray on permatex copper stuff just because I think it would help with any imperfections.

Bob

This is exactly what i was hoping to hear. People can tell me that I need to polish my block deck and head all day long but as long as people have gotten by just fine without doing that then i'm not going to worry about it. I'll definitely spray the gasket with the copper stuff.


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