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Old May 25, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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Is anyone going to have a nice writeup on how to wire for dummies and maybe MS settings?
Old May 25, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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Same wiring as COPS. Set dwell to 5MS.
Old May 26, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by falcon
Same wiring as COPS. Set dwell to 5MS.
How would you wire in C and B on a NB miata?
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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musanovic: I'm taking a stab at this from what I have read (I have these coils in a box, still have to install them).

More experienced members please grade me.

From your drawing: B is low current ground (like to the MS or with your IAT/CLT sensors), You ground it like you would anything, but not on a bus with high current devices as that could cause interference. C is the signal from the ECU
Old May 26, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by musanovic
How would you wire in C and B on a NB miata?
I have no resistors. The Haltch guys never run them. Red went to switched power, green went to my haltech (running direct fire) in your case you would follow the same trigger wire wiring as the COPS. Brown just all tied together and grounded to where my ECU grounds on the head and black grounds at the ECU.

6000km, 230whp and a hell of a lot of bagging on and zero issues so far.
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according to the diagram wouldn't you have the high and low current grounds flipped? (if that even matters)
Old May 26, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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oops my bad. I do have it right correct way, I just wrote it wrong.
Old May 26, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon
oops my bad. I do have it right correct way, I just wrote it wrong.
what bennefits have you seen so far form switching?
did you have cops?
Old May 26, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Yes. I melted one of the COPS and this was cheaper to do and has more spark.
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Mine. Prepare for big boner.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
Cleanest install yet. You need to fab a few more of those brackets
my 1.6 is at Chris' shop getting my ls2 truck coil bracket made
Old May 27, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Sweet. Maybe something he can consider building and selling?
Old May 31, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Thanks to ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT

soon to be installed.
this will be a chaper alternative thant the toyota cops but more kick to it.
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Originally Posted by musanovic
Thanks to ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT

soon to be installed.
this will be a chaper alternative thant the toyota cops but more kick to it.
exactly, cheaper and much more powerful spark.
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I see a lot of these in this thread that I don’t think will live very long. There is a huge amount of vibration sources attached to an engine. Cantilevering the coil bracket off a few bolts along one edge of it ends up with very low natural vibration modes for the bracket. I think they will crack after al little while due to resonance vibrations.

But just to add to the thread here is mine. Fabricated bits that mount to the fuel rail and valve cover bolts. Modified 95 intake manifold on a 99 head so I got some room to put them where I did. The tabs to the valve cover bolts cracked a couple times and had to be beefed up. Things have to be stiff to live in this vibration environment for long.




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Originally Posted by bbundy
I see a lot of these in this thread that I don’t think will live very long. There is a huge amount of vibration sources attached to an engine. Cantilevering the coil bracket off a few bolts along one edge of it ends up with very low natural vibration modes for the bracket. I think they will crack after al little while due to resonance vibrations.

But just to add to the thread here is mine. Fabricated bits that mount to the fuel rail and valve cover bolts. Modified 95 intake manifold on a 99 head so I got some room to put them where I did. The tabs to the valve cover bolts cracked a couple times and had to be beefed up. Things have to be stiff to live in this vibration environment for long.

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this is one of my most favorite cars here.
very well done Sr.
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The grounds don't matter. Bus them to the head. The low current ground is there to support ion sensing mis-fire detection.
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Originally Posted by bbundy
I see a lot of these in this thread that I don’t think will live very long. There is a huge amount of vibration sources attached to an engine. Cantilevering the coil bracket off a few bolts along one edge of it ends up with very low natural vibration modes for the bracket. I think they will crack after al little while due to resonance vibrations.

But just to add to the thread here is mine. Fabricated bits that mount to the fuel rail and valve cover bolts. Modified 95 intake manifold on a 99 head so I got some room to put them where I did. The tabs to the valve cover bolts cracked a couple times and had to be beefed up. Things have to be stiff to live in this vibration environment for long.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...9&d=1289972574

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...8&d=1289972574
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My mount has had two braces added to it since the last time you saw mine. They don't move at all now.
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Originally Posted by falcon
My mount has had two braces added to it since the last time you saw mine. They don't move at all now.
Pics or kill yourself
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