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Old 03-08-2012, 04:29 AM   #41
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Any updates? Anyone get one with the shroud? I could use extra room slim fans provide. I already have a 10 year old all metal (not aluminum) aftermarket radiator for an automatic car, don't necessarily need a new radiator but if the overall width is small on this ebay combo I may just get the radiator with it. Hmmm.
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It came in, but haven't installed it yet. Crazy busy lately. I was told by several people that the slim fans and shrouds that get sold with these rads are complete and utter garbage, so I'll be using the stockers
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Ahh ok thanks. I was hoping otherwise. I am looking for slim fan/shroud that's not FM's $350. I may just put one slim fan directly onto the radiator on whichever side I need extra clearance, and leave the stocker on the otherside.
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Yeah, the reviews are really mixed on those things.
I know when I had my over-the-top-fmic on the 1st setup I was constantly running hot as hell, til I shrouded the isht out of the heat exchangers and did a re-route, at which point it was "ok" and normal.

Scrapped that idea altogether on the 2nd setup and ran stock shrouds/fans

This time I'm going with big rad + stock shrouds/fans and hoping the new redesigned cooling system passages on this thing do ok without a 94-00 hg and re-route
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I've put on about 250 miles since the rad went in, and I have no problems.

I am running just the one oem fan, and the temp gauge never moves above half. I didn't have any overheat issues with the stocker either though.

I think for a street car, this setup is more than adaquate. I still have stock routing too.
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Ahh ok thanks. I was hoping otherwise. I am looking for slim fan/shroud that's not FM's $350. I may just put one slim fan directly onto the radiator on whichever side I need extra clearance, and leave the stocker on the otherside.
I know your setup will be different, but my car stays cool enough in stop/go with one ducted fan on stock-ish 1.8.
Even during NC summer heat 95*+ summers.
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I was overheating pretty bad so I just bought the ebay one as well. Thanks for the reviews guys
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I got the 90-97 model along with the fans & shroud for $185 shipped a couple weeks ago. I figured for the extra $85 I would try the fans in case I needed the extra room. The quality of both the radiator, shroud & fans looks pretty damn good. The fans blow nicely too and are ball bearing units.

I modified this radiator to fit 1.5" inside my radiator support to give me more room between the fans and the front of the engine. I can weld aluminum, not whatever metal the old radiator was. I will post pics once I take them. But I am very pleased.

OH, my old radiator had 1.25" inlet/outlets, just like the ebay al. radiator. And all my misc. pipe for doing metal reroutes is 1.25", I don't know what you guy are talking about the wrong pipe size on these.
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Because on several it specifies 1 and 3/8s instead of 1 and 1/4th Tim.
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I just installed a MSM radiator on my NB1 yesterday. It mounts right up (as expected), but what I didnt expect is that the stock NB1 fans bolt right up with no modification. The top of the fan shroud bends a wee bit due to the thicker core of the MSM rad, but it works just fine. This makes the swap almost a no brainer - no complicated MSM fan wiring job necessary. I'm going to the track in 2 weeks, so I'll report back on how it fares compared to the previous OEM radiator.

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I think they may have gotten some complaint from some idiot using the wrong hoses and put that disclaimer there. Cause you're right they fit just fine.
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Because on several it specifies 1 and 3/8s instead of 1 and 1/4th Tim.
All the ~$100 radiator listings I looked at (most) listed at 1 2/8".
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I just put in my ebay radiator. Second one in another car. Yay. Baller.

BTW 18psi you should not get a radiator because you will be selling your current miata in 8 months.
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Don't hate. At least my car was running
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All the ~$100 radiator listings I looked at (most) listed at 1 2/8".
2/8? lol, don't confuse blaen.
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Yes, chinese auctions use 2/8 as the fraction on these radiators. Their description, not mine.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-05-MIATA-...898044&vxp=mtr

1 3/16's inlet/outlets

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JVT-RACING-2...b4bff1&vxp=mtr

1 1/8 outlets/inlets

All of the old listings that had 1 3/8s are now stating 1 and 3/16 instead though.
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Bumping this thread to add some data:
Last week I went to THill, high 80's ambient, ~80% water with water wetter. The MSM radiator with NB fans didn't overheat at all - the gauge never moved from the dead zone.
In April when I went with the same conditions with the oem NB radiator, 50/50, the gauge would routinely be at the 3/4 mark by the end of the session.
Big big improvement.
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Nice!

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How are those cheap fans holding up?
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