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allofit Jul 9, 2021 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by der_vierte (Post 1603979)
I read that, too. I don't know how dude's can run a company and TAKE MONEY for this kind of SHIT

Yes this is sheer incompetence on behalf of the tuner. OP, detonation damaged your pistons.

Your VE table looks awful and AFR targets are too lean at 200kpa. If it wasn't for your K1 rods I suspect you'd have a few holes in the side of your block.

Uploading my ME221 VE & Ignition table for reference. Stock 1.8 VVT. EFR 6258 @ 11-12psi peak torque rising to 13psi at redline. Doesn't knock. Hasn't blown up. 3000+ 'hard' street miles so far.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...acba98f8e9.png
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b878198cd5.png




Joe Perez Jul 9, 2021 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by jonboy (Post 1603978)
Does it really bug anyone else that everything is 'specified' to the thousandth of a degree / VE% / AFR target?

Yes, I much prefer fractional notation. Eg: 35¾° of advance.

jonboy Jul 10, 2021 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1604047)
Yes, I much prefer fractional notation. Eg: 35¾° of advance.

At idle!

curly Jul 10, 2021 11:55 AM

For shits and giggles, and because I secretly like data entry, I made a comparison chart for you @Italianmk1 . Columns are the delta between you RPMs, rows are the delta between your map. You can see with both you're within a few hundred RPM, less than a dozen kpa. I only entered the first decimal place for OP's table.

Negative numbers mean you're more advanced than @allofit , positive numbers means he's more advanced. The gaps are where your columns or rows didn't really line up well. allofit is sort of "wasting" his 300rpm column (maybe that's for cranking?), but italianmk1 has a useless 8000, 8500, and 9000 column. I already think 7500 is useless btw, since 7000 numbers are realistically fine for anything above, unless you want to begin tapering off ignition or adding fuel as a sort of pre-limiter.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b76e80c098.png




allofit Jul 10, 2021 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1604064)
For shits and giggles, and because I secretly like data entry, I made a comparison chart for you @Italianmk1 .

This is great. Thanks curly! :likecat:

der_vierte Jul 11, 2021 02:56 PM

No wonder his shit spools FAST :D

Italianmk1 Jul 12, 2021 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1604064)
For shits and giggles, and because I secretly like data entry, I made a comparison chart for you @Italianmk1 . Columns are the delta between you RPMs, rows are the delta between your map. You can see with both you're within a few hundred RPM, less than a dozen kpa. I only entered the first decimal place for OP's table.

Negative numbers mean you're more advanced than @allofit , positive numbers means he's more advanced. The gaps are where your columns or rows didn't really line up well. allofit is sort of "wasting" his 300rpm column (maybe that's for cranking?), but italianmk1 has a useless 8000, 8500, and 9000 column. I already think 7500 is useless btw, since 7000 numbers are realistically fine for anything above, unless you want to begin tapering off ignition or adding fuel as a sort of pre-limiter.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b76e80c098.png

OMG, fantastic!
Thankyou!!
@allofit it's possible to see also your boost map and your Dyno?
Thanks

adryargument Jul 12, 2021 06:55 PM

Damage looks familiar.

I had 1 piston fail once, other 3 were all fine with no damage.
it had similar damage but not as bad. It looked like the ring caught, cracked piston in half then excessive gasses escaping through said crack melted the surfaces around it.

Can incorrectly installed rings / upside down rings cause that?

allofit Jul 13, 2021 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Italianmk1 (Post 1604203)
OMG, fantastic!
Thankyou!!
@allofit it's possible to see also your boost map and your Dyno?
Thanks

Closed loop boost targets;


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8d57c1b769.png


3rd gear (two pulls, same road in opposite directions)

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...676f88e0dd.jpg

5th gear (1:1 ratio) pull on same road as above. More torque and better spool in 5th;

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...63d8e0c73a.jpg

Mr Plow Jul 13, 2021 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by allofit (Post 1604234)

I'm amazed this stays alive at this boost level given all the horror stories I've read. I run less a lot less based on calcs of my NA power Vs boost and other's reports. Your virtual dyno figures almost look low for the boost level and tune you're running. I like it.

Going to get mine on the dyno to see where it actually is.

DNMakinson Jul 13, 2021 08:12 AM

@allofit Where is your build thread?

allofit Jul 13, 2021 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1604245)
@allofit Where is your build thread?

Yes it’s probably about time I made one.


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