New High Boost/Load Sputter - COP Kit (w/ Logs)
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All,
After taking the car out of winter storage, it acquired a sputter/hesitation under high boost. After first, it only happened momentarily at around 30psi, but it's gotten progressively worse. Now it won't even hit 25psi without falling on its face. Things I've done in an attempt to fix it:
Log attached. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! |
Have you checked/logged fuel pressure?
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Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1535777)
Have you checked/logged fuel pressure?
I will also revisit my fuel lines and the vacuum line running to my AFPR today. |
You are spiking lean right at the end. No bueno. Can you post your tune? A weird thing I noticed is your coolant temp spiked up 10deg right exactly where you start losing power. Seems an odd coincidence. Do you have some kind of CLT safety in place?
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
(Post 1535778)
Only AFR and Injector Duty Cycle. Is this not conclusive enough?
I will also revisit my fuel lines and the vacuum line running to my AFPR today. My friend's car does this when the plug start to fowl, but you changed those already. |
Also - can you provide a brief description of your setup?
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Injector Duty Cycle does not log fuel delivered. Just tells you what your injectors are doing. With knowing the fuel pressure you are kind of blind.
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi? Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation. [you are brave my friend] |
Crankshaft Position sensor. Check the gap itll produce issues when they start going out.
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Originally Posted by Mudflap
(Post 1535779)
You are spiking lean right at the end. No bueno. Can you post your tune? A weird thing I noticed is your coolant temp spiked up 10deg right exactly where you start losing power. Seems an odd coincidence. Do you have some kind of CLT safety in place?
Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1535787)
Crankshaft Position sensor. Check the gap itll produce issues when they start going out.
The biggest issue I can see from your log is your battery voltage. The megasquirt is showing 17+ volts. Grab a multimeter and confirm. |
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Originally Posted by Mudflap
(Post 1535779)
You are spiking lean right at the end. No bueno. Can you post your tune? A weird thing I noticed is your coolant temp spiked up 10deg right exactly where you start losing power. Seems an odd coincidence. Do you have some kind of CLT safety in place?
Originally Posted by Mudflap
(Post 1535781)
Also - can you provide a brief description of your setup?
Originally Posted by Mudflap
(Post 1535786)
Injector Duty Cycle does not log fuel delivered. Just tells you what your injectors are doing. With knowing the fuel pressure you are kind of blind.
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi? Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation. [you are brave my friend]
Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1535787)
Crankshaft Position sensor. Check the gap itll produce issues when they start going out.
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1535811)
The lean spike is the misfiring. Uncombusted oxygen in the exhaust will register as lean.
Can't really be the CKP sensor IMO. He has no sync loss. The biggest issue I can see from your log is your battery voltage. The megasquirt is showing 17+ volts. Grab a multimeter and confirm. Because it's progressively getting worse, and load based, I can't help but think it's a connection, a sensor or a ground etc. 🤬. Actually, I just did some reading and I have a hunch that it's the capacitor within the ignition harness. I think it would also explain why I'm still able to go beyond 20psi, but not 30. I'm going to open up the harness tomorrow and see of Amazon offers a replacement capacitor. |
I would check ground connections for the ignition coils. I don't drive my car very often, but I had something similar this time around when I took the car out of the garage.
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first |
Originally Posted by Carloverx
(Post 1535837)
Long story short, voltage logs have shown 17v for years.:facepalm: so I suspect it's something else.
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Originally Posted by gooflophaze
(Post 1535845)
Reflash the firmware. I've run into the same issue, don't know what causes it.
Originally Posted by bmxfuel007
(Post 1535844)
I would check ground connections for the ignition coils. I don't drive my car very often, but I had something similar this time around when I took the car out of the garage.
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first
Outside of the firmware, what the hell else could this be? Ugh, so frustrating since the car's been running well for a while. :facepalm: Thanks for everyone's thoughts thus far. |
Car died entirely. What I know:
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Sounds like grounds/wiring, check fuses. Good luck, that blows!
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Check your big INJ fuse in the engine bay
This happened to me. Turns out my cam sensor wiring grounded out on my hood after it rubbed a hole through the insulation (VVT cam sensor position) . I had tied it into the injector power white/red. Start looking for witness marks on parts or braided lines that might have worn through and cause undesired shorts. |
EDIT: (This was an unrelated issue) It's now popping the 30amp fuel injector fuse after running for a few seconds...... Clues.
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Look for shorts. Trace everything you've touched or rewired. It doesn't have to be big, it could be rubbing against your intake manifold.
Insulation wearing explains the slow progression to failure. |
Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1536367)
Look for shorts. Trace everything you've touched or rewired. It doesn't have to be big, it could be rubbing against your intake manifold.
Insulation wearing explains the slow progression to failure. I'm back to investigating fuel instead of spark. I'm replacing the fuel filter next. :vash: |
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