NGK Iridium Detonation?
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So, My NGK BKR8EIX plugs have been running flawlessly for about 50k miles or so... Ive never gone that far on any plugs, i usually change them about once a year just for the hell of it.
Anywho... i pulled them to replace them, and was kindof surprised by what i found. Just looking at the plugs, would you think this chipping on the insulators is just from High mileage on them, or did i maybe get some lower than optimal fuel somewhere and detonate for a little while? The damage seems minimal... but obviously ANY detonation is bad detonation... From what ive seen in the past, Usually detonating does more damage than this, and ive even seen little metal balls splashed all over them from the awesomeness that had occured. so, normal high mileage wear??? or did i go boom a few times??? What Dost Thou think??? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401121029 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401121029 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401121029 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401121029 and, dont mind the rust.... i had the hood off my car, and my tarp covering it had some awesome leaks. Seeped right through the plug wire boot http://i58.tinypic.com/205phe9.jpg |
Look pretty normal to me. It the ceramic chipped, or just the carbon buildup?
I'd send them through the plug cleaner, re-gap and reinstall. |
Any changes in your tune?
BTW. I think the iridium plugs are a waste of money I recommend using the normal NGK "R" series plug in the coldest range that doesn't foul in your car. |
Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 1134464)
Look pretty normal to me. It the ceramic chipped, or just the carbon buildup?
I'd send them through the plug cleaner, re-gap and reinstall. The current state of the engine is slightly lacking, because ive been focusing on my 1.8build, and doing my MS research... i kinda stopped caring about what i have in there now.... lol 1.6=Fael |
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Just pulled these out of my ridgeline 105K mi on them, but they look cleaner than your plugs.
Is your engine burning oil? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401137762 |
Originally Posted by HHammerly
(Post 1134485)
Just pulled these out of my ridgeline 105K mi on them, but they look cleaner than your plugs.
Is your engine burning oil? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401137762 |
Using any additives or chemical mixes, running rich or lean for any amount of time ? It looks like a bit of crud coating on the porcelain.
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They look ok for 50k miles of boosted abuse. They've got a nice solid carbon ring on them indicating a rich mix which is good, and the dark wear mark on the ground strap is right in the middle, which indicates good ignition timing.
I replace my NGK V-power bkr7e plugs yearly because they're $2 a pop and I like to 'read' fresh ones every spring. I run 15psi on stock coils and wires without any issues. So far:noes: |
Originally Posted by Landrew
(Post 1134491)
Using any additives or chemical mixes, running rich or lean for any amount of time ? It looks like a bit of crud coating on the porcelain.
I was getting gas from a slightly sketchy gas station... because they had 94 octane... but, i started questioning whether it was actually 94 or not... because the price was way too low compared to the sunoco down the street for their 94. AND, my car ran like crap with gas from them. i stopped going there after 3 fillups... but thats about 900 miles of Shitty fuel if thats indeed what the problem was. that COULD be part of the issue, but it was never confirmed, i just stopped going there. lol |
Originally Posted by flounder
(Post 1134519)
They look ok for 50k miles of boosted abuse. They've got a nice solid carbon ring on them indicating a rich mix which is good, and the dark wear mark on the ground strap is right in the middle, which indicates good ignition timing.
I replace my NGK V-power bkr7e plugs yearly because they're $2 a pop and I like to 'read' fresh ones every spring. I run 15psi on stock coils and wires without any issues. So far:noes: do they make the plugs you use in a bkr8e??? 8 is the best heat range ive found for my setup. I only went with the iridiums because all my boost buddies out in Missouri swore by them... but at $36 for 4 of them, i wouldnt mind going cheaper. lol |
why are you running a heat range of 8?
you should be running a heat range of 6 on NGKs, 7 at the most. BKR6E-11 or BKR7E-11, or bust. but your plugs indicate that you're running too cold a plug and too much fuel... |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1134634)
why are you running a heat range of 8?
you should be running a heat range of 6 on NGKs, 7 at the most. BKR6E-11 or BKR7E-11, or bust. but your plugs indicate that you're running too cold a plug and too much fuel... |
1.6L plugs were already too cold from the state. factory 1.8L plugs are heat range 5; you don't really need more than 6-7.
going to 8 obviously is leading to an incomplete burn. I'd run as hot as I can get away with--in regards to auto-igniting. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1134643)
1.6L plugs were already too cold from the state. factory 1.8L plugs are heat range 5; you don't really need more than 6-7.
going to 8 obviously is leading to an incomplete burn. I'd run as hot as I can get away with--in regards to auto-igniting. |
i dont see any benefits to running expensive plugs.
cheap $1 copper plugs work well. |
BKR7E !!
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Originally Posted by ctdrftna
(Post 1134848)
BKR7E !!
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Terminology. Overheated plugs will cause pre-ignition. Not the same thing, technically, as detonation. Pre-ignition can really get your attention though!
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Originally Posted by hornetball
(Post 1135147)
Terminology. Overheated plugs will cause pre-ignition. Not the same thing, technically, as detonation. Pre-ignition can really get your attention though!
Not a very good sound/feel. I ALSO dont know how long those plugs were in the car by the time i bought it though.... they could have had 100,000 miles of hard driving on them. I would HOPE not..... seeing as how ive put another 120k trouble free miles on it, i doubt it. |
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